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[Ib≤In≤Iz]

I got called out to price up some additional socket outlets for a customer. As I walked around checking things out I could not locate the Main Bonding to the water supply. I pointed it out to the customer, whos reply was "oh I think the kitchen fitters electrician did that, I will ask him". I told them he has bonded the gas, but the water hasn't been done.

Anyway a few days later they send me an email with the minor works certificate attached. Not the first time this has happened, but it does annoy me

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[Deleted member 9648]

More info needed. Can you see the incoming water service? Are you certain it requires bonding?

 

[Midwest]

Having done a few kitchen refurbs myself, I've ensured the water service is bonded and has continuity, only to return for 2nd fix to find the kitchen fitters have hidden said bonding behind the floor unit.

Tried educating kitchen fitters no end, seen some that have even hid the water stopcock behind the floor unit. Did bonding accessible behind removable plinth on one job, only to be told off by my scheme assessor, that that was not accessible.

Luckily for me now, I predominately do work for the same kitchen company, where I've educated the fitters. We either have all the pipe work/bonding accessible in floor unit, or drill a large diameter hole in the rear of floor unit where bonding point is easily accessible.

 

[Wilko]

Last one I found with no water bonding was a new installation and the Previous Guy had left that bit of EIC blank. It turned out it was ok but a note on cert would have saved me testing .

Maybe there was quick visit from Previous Guy to fix "and btw, since I'm here ..."? Not much fun for you

 

[Ib≤In≤Iz]

More info needed. Can you see the incoming water service? Are you certain it requires bonding?

Yes I can see it and it does require bonding, there's a hole cut in the rear of the base units to access the stop cock.

Theres only one 10mm2 conductor running from the met to the gas & that's as far as it goes.

The description on the certificate is a bit vague, I always like to put as much useful info as possible so anyone coming in after me has a clear picture.

There's other issues too but that's another thing.

 

[hightower]

You tested it to make sure it needs bonding?

EDIT: Seems you have, sorry

Yes I can see it and it does require bonding

 

[Leesparkykent]

Maximum disconnection time permitted 0.2 seconds for TN-C-S earthing arrangement, the RCD type says RCD not A,B,AC etc and says 1.1ohms for maximum Zs permitted by bs7671 when it should be 1.37.....cert looks like tosh.

 

[Ib≤In≤Iz]

Maximum disconnection time permitted 0.2 seconds for TN-C-S earthing arrangement, the RCD type says RCD not A,B,AC etc and says 1.1ohms for maximum Zs permitted by bs7671 when it should be 1.37.....cert looks like tosh.

It's all wrong isn't it mate, how people get basic things like this wrong scares me