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when it comes to rewires you literally get what you pay for , £4K allows 3 days to complete the job , of course it’s going to be thrown in roughly imo
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Yes, the level of work is appalling, A bit of cable tray in the loft would have solved a lot of the problem. How do you calculate £4K = 3 days work? You must be working on £1000 a day, I've only ever earnt that on commercial, never domestic.when it comes to rewires you literally get what you pay for , £4K allows 3 days to complete the job , of course it’s going to be thrown in roughly imo
£3K labour (1 electrician + 1 mate for 3 long days) + £1K materialsYes, the level of work is appalling, A bit of cable tray in the loft would have solved a lot of the problem. How do you calculate £4K = 3 days work? You must be working on £1000 a day, I've only ever earnt that on commercial, never domestic.
I think the spark in the Video is Midlands based so not daft London money.£3K labour (1 electrician + 1 mate for 3 long days) + £1K materials
stand and deliver monie or your life .I think the spark in the Video is Midlands based so not daft London money.
I tend to agree, a couple extra hours clipping cables, maybe a little bit of galv tray and suddenly the job would look better. Ok yes nobody likes climbing through loft insulation but if you are doing re-wires then its part of the job. I have seen so many re-wires in recent years where new cables are just thrownin from one area of the loft to the other not a clip in sight. I started as a sparks and one of my first jobs was clipping all the cables that the main spark had put in. Do they not teach clipping anymore?I watched that video and most of the rough stuff could have been done better for very little cost or effort. Looks like inexperience.
However £4k for a 3 bed semi is not unreasonably cheap and would pay well for a spark and lad for a whole week.
All white accessories, RCBO board, pendant per room wouldn't come to much more than £1k.
So, If I paid £4k, yes I'd expect a lot better.
So no fire rated clips at reasonable intervals?If they're running parallel with the ceiling joists, i lay them on the plasterboard ceiling.
On top of a plasterboard ceiling?So no fire rated clips at reasonable intervals?
I think once the ceiling plasterboard and timbers have gone... it's way beyond 'premature collapse' ?So no fire rated clips at reasonable intervals?
I get where you are both coming from and you are probably right, but there's always a chance a firefighter may be required to pull down such a ceiling to access a fire - maybe over the top, but the time and cost it takes to install a couple of clips is worthwhile IMO.I think once the ceiling plasterboard and timbers have gone... it's way beyond 'premature collapse' ?
I might be in for a bit of a kicking here, but...
If I'm running cables in a loft that is already insulated, any cables that I install under the insulation don't get clipped. I don't see the point. If they're running parallel with the ceiling joists, i lay them on the plasterboard ceiling. If they're running perpendicular to the ceiling joists, then i lay them right up against a timber that is also running that way, or over by the eaves. This keeps them out of harms way should someone want to board it out.
Obviously, some cables are going to be above the insulation so they do get clipped.
That's exactly how I would do it. Despite the fact we don't (yet) have the requirement to clip cables, we will usually do it for neatness at corners not on straight runs. Looks a lot better. However in houses where they may be in a position to do an attic conversion we will drill joists.I might be in for a bit of a kicking here, but...
If I'm running cables in a loft that is already insulated, any cables that I install under the insulation don't get clipped. I don't see the point. If they're running parallel with the ceiling joists, i lay them on the plasterboard ceiling. If they're running perpendicular to the ceiling joists, then i lay them right up against a timber that is also running that way, or over by the eaves. This keeps them out of harms way should someone want to board it out.
Obviously, some cables are going to be above the insulation so they do get clipped.
What part of the country are you? I’m in the southeast and couldn’t see how I could charge myself out at £800 a day.If this re-wire took more than 3 days I will eat my hat...it looks rushed , thrown in and get out quick .
£4K is too cheap for a decent re-wire imo , they underquoted and rushed this one imo
I would allow 5 days on my own and £5K to do it properly
SurreyWhat part of the country are you? I’m in the southeast and couldn’t see how I could charge myself out at £800 a day.
Thinking cable tray in a domestic situ, bit over the top for me.Surely having a basic sense of pride in one's work would dictate that cables aren't lashed across lofts? When I rewired upstairs lighting in my parent's house, it never occured to me that anything other than clipping neatly and close to the eaves might be acceptable. Wish I'd thought of cable tray as that would have been so much nicer than 200 odd years of dust and dirt...
You pay 2 sparks and a lad £250 a day in total, or am I reading that wrong?I haven’t watched the video so can’t comment on the installation but IMO 4K for a standard 3 bed Rewire is about the going rate. £1000 on material, 2 sparks and a lad for 4 days £1000 Labour, £320 overheads £1680 in the sky rocket....even if it takes 5 days your still on to a decent earner.
Ones who do work like that, yes.You pay 2 sparks and a lad £250 a day in total, or am I reading that wrong?
Did a cottage recently for €6,200. Some people have completely unrealistic expectations about price unfortunately.That's exactly how I would do it. Despite the fact we don't (yet) have the requirement to clip cables, we will usually do it for neatness at corners not on straight runs. Looks a lot better. However in houses where they may be in a position to do an attic conversion we will drill joists.
Regarding a 3 day rewire.... first time I have heard of the concept. Shortest I have experienced is a week (as in 7 days) and that was a rare exception.
Price wise 4000 euro was not unusual for a terraced house.In fact in some cases it was a, good price. However now that detectors, LSF cable, surge protection and a, number of other additions required with new regs, I doubt we will see a 4 grand price tag on a rewire again.
My most recent rewire was 6000
I carry all round banding with me all the time now. Nobody can argue the ---- about premature collapse with that stuffOr in the old days some short of cuts of cables nailed to the rafters as make shift loops to bunch all the cables together neatly up out the way
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