Is this Fuse Box Legal?

[Brightspark2]

That is bad and if it is an electrician that's completed that then its even more shocking.

Get a good electrician out to make a report about the matter and send it off recorded post or deliver it yourself. They could do a visual inspection which would seem ideal for this situation and wouldnt cost that much, although who knows what the rest of the installtion is like...

 

[Hiddo]

Just when I thought I'd seen it all, Jubilee clips??? Oh dear oh dear!!!

 

[needasparks]

There's no mention of when this was replaced, going by it being a 16th CU and having spare red & black it may be before part P.
the bottom ring looks like its getting hot on the choc block as red is getting light in colour but too many faults to list and only one problem why was it not put back in the same place as it looks like the cables may well have all reached without extending..crazy bit of planning there.

 

[HandySparks]

Would this set up have an impact on power useage?

No. Just safety.

 

[trev]

They may have had FIRE on their mind when they put the cable in as it looks like LSF !

I thought it was flex

 

[Des 56]

What a pathetic attempt at a consumer unit renewal
Does he provide you with a rubbish bin ? if so it should contain that sorry effort

 

[LineProducts]

Not sure if anyone has pointed out the obvious to the OP.

DANGER: DO NOT TOUCH OR GO NEAR THE SILVER SCREWS ON THE CHOCBLOCK. NOT EVEN WITH A FEATHER DUSTER OR ANYTHING ELSE. THE SCREWS ARE LIVE!
Make sure that everyone else who uses the property/cleans knows about this.

 

[Adam]

I thought it was flex

red and black with bare CPC?

It's not fine and where do you start when listing the faults???

Extension of the 3 circuits is wrong (should be at the very least inside an adaptable box....i'd crimp/wago rather than chocblok aswell)
No earth sleeving.
Abit unclear as picture is blurred but if one of those circuits is a ringmain (32a mcb feed) then the single 2.5 T&E cable extending it is wrong.
Blank missing in consumer unit
Numerous labels missing
Jubilee clips to extend the main earth?...thats a first for me

no doubt the list will go on when people with sharper eyes have a peek

Some of the points mentioned, although true, are not going to impact the safety of the installation (although, only a thorough inspection and test could prove that it is safe).


With regards to the photo, my only concerns would be:

No enclosure for joint cables. These are not likely to cause any severe damage or injury, unless you mess with them.

Blank missing from DB. This is an extreme hazard if you are feeling your way around the DB in the dark, or fancy sticking your finger in.

The ring main as mentioned, may not be as bad as first looks. To me, the cables used to extend the circuits look bigger than 2.5mm2, so may comply with current carrying capacities. Even if it is 2.5mm2, it is an extremely short run and has a current carrying capacity of 27 amps, and you are unlikely to exceed this amount for extended periods of time. If it is overloaded, it is only going to run warm and reduce the life of the cable. It is not going to burst into flames.


As others have said, get it reported and insist they rectify it promptly. I would also insist on a certificate for the installation.

 

[Kamikaze]

Print this out and stick over it until it’s been sorted!

 

[sparks1973]

Not so much the consumer unit mate, but the strip of expose connector is the dangerous part.

Get him to sort them now!!!

Other than that is there an association he belongs to, because looking at that he is risking killing people

dont know dave...check out the missing blank....

 

[Octopus]

Question to Kris55 - have we given you enough points for you to take this to your Landlord now?

 

[morph]

also they have not cut in around the new board...very sloppy

 

[not clever]

3rd terminal up, conductors show signs of heat damage!

 

[Steve_P]

Is this for real?

 

[bartkusal]

They may have had FIRE on their mind when they put the cable in as it looks like LSF !

It looks like it is two rings from the updated pic, and the cable from chock block to CU seems like 4mm2 (unless its just thicker conductor insulation), so it wouldnt be that bad in that sence really, still load of crap....

 

[Spazz]

Go to your local council and ask to talk to public protection department or the environmental health department.
they will issue him with an improvement notice which he must obey to or they will take him to court.

Then stop paying rent till he sorts it out.

Post your location and I will send you the email address for the public protection department you need to be in touch with.

If he's a domestic electrician doing work like this he must be registered or notify to LABC which clearly he has not done. If he's registered then go to the body he's registered with and show them this picture, if he is anregistered electrician then he won't be after you do this!

If you need anymore help then pm me and I will be happy to assist

 

[baazab]

looking at the consumer unit the main switch is off is this another story!!!

 

[sparks1973]

£150 !!!!....... more like pesetas. a 1st year apprentice would know better.

i thought it had a `spanishified` look about it Tel...

 

[Jonesy83]

ive seen some crap in my time but that just tops it

 

[trev]

ive seen some crap in my time but that just tops it

I've seen worse mate

 

[rich.250]

ive seen some crap in my time but that just tops it

Seen a lot worse! Still doesn't mean it shouldn't be sorted ASAP!!
Get on to the council, unsafe living conditions!!

 

[TPES]

Anyone noticed the main switch is upside down... There's too much wrong with this for it to be believable

 

[cd1970]

I may be new to electrics, but even i can see this is way out of order

 

[Geordie Spark]

£150 !!!!....... more like pesetas. a 1st year apprentice would know better.

It's like the wiring I did in our garden shed ...... I was 13 at the time !!!

 

[telectrix]

It's like the wiring I did in our garden shed ...... I was 13 at the time !!!

didn't realise we had electricity back then. :bigear:

 

[trev]

Then stop paying rent till he sorts it out

Bad advice, the tenant has no legal right to withhold rent, doing this could result in you being evicted and made homeless. Furthermore it could wreck your credit rating and if the landlord wanted to he could tell others that you stopped paying for no reason. This could affect your future housing prospects

 

[Kris55]

Hi All,

Thanks again for all your posts.

We have contacted the council and we have someone coming round to check it next week.

We contacted the agent again on the request of the council asking for something to be done as we still think its unsafe (didn’t mention this web site), we also asked about the windows they fitted (that has holes under the frames but that’s a different story!)

They sent our comments to the landlord, got back home the other night and there was an eviction notice on the door mat, can't say we are too sad about it, but want to make sure there is an improvement order on the property before we go, wouldn’t want any new tenants getting hurt or worse.

We did have the notice checked over and its all legal so we have no come back, which wasn't a shock, looking for a smaller and newer place to rent this time!
Will let you know what the person from the council says :25:

 

[Octopus]

Hi All,

Thanks again for all your posts.

We have contacted the council and we have someone coming round to check it next week.

We contacted the agent again on the request of the council asking for something to be done as we still think its unsafe (didn’t mention this web site), we also asked about the windows they fitted (that has holes under the frames but that’s a different story!)

They sent our comments to the landlord, got back home the other night and there was an eviction notice on the door mat, can't say we are too sad about it, but want to make sure there is an improvement order on the property before we go, wouldn’t want any new tenants getting hurt or worse.

We did have the notice checked over and its all legal so we have no come back, which wasn't a shock, looking for a smaller and newer place to rent this time!
Will let you know what the person from the council says :25:

I probably shouldn't say this but it sounds like moving out is probably in your best interest. When you're viewing your next property, take a look at the fuse box and fingers crossed you'll see a neater, safer solution - if not its unlikely to be your next home.

Good luck

 

[Engineer54]

Looks like you now have 2 lollipop rings there, and either a shower or cooker circuit that's been connected via this external connector strip...

Couple that to all the other discrepancies, and there is more than a case against this landlord on safety issues, and i would imagine a decent case against the agents as well. Not as if they were unaware of a safety issue, they should have been covering there own arse and making approaches to the landlord to rectify the situation...

 

[Geordie Spark]

Looks like you now have 2 lollipop rings there, and either a shower or cooker circuit that's been connected via this external connector strip...

Couple that to all the other discrepancies, and there is more than a case against this landlord on safety issues, and i would imagine a decent case against the agents as well. Not as if they were unaware of a safety issue, they should have been covering there own arse and making approaches to the landlord to rectify the situation...

I agree and think that since the OP has been evicted from his home, he should be doing all he can to make their lives as uncomfortable as he can ..... once he is safely settled in another home that is !!!

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Bad advice, the tenant has no legal right to withhold rent, doing this could result in you being evicted and made homeless. Furthermore it could wreck your credit rating and if the landlord wanted to he could tell others that you stopped paying for no reason. This could affect your future housing prospects

Aye .... that's bang on bonny lad.