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[SparkySy]

@DT1991 Yes mate totally gone! I did explain to them that it would not contain a fire as there is a massive gap straight up into the loft space above! Not even grommet strip round the edges that are left! The worst thing is they had a fire in the building not so long ago, fps didn't work and it was only down to 1 individual that the whole place didn't go up!

 

[mattg4321]

Apparently this large shed/annexe/summer house type thing in the garden was wired by a friend of customers. Apparently he is/was homeless. Maybe his house burnt down?

At least he ran armoured cable from the house, but thats where the good parts of this install ended. Unglanded, 2.5 3 core run direct from a socket on a ring final. Shower is 8.5kw and there was also a mobile air con unit plugged into a socket in the bedroom. MCB had been swapped to 40A.

The cables making up the RFC looked pretty good to be fair, as did the armoured. Not taken apart anything in the garden annexe thing yet. The lever type wagos used to connect the swa to t&e from the back of the socket were in pretty bad shape though! Lightly toasted!

Seriously though, every time I work inside M25 I'm faced with this rubbish. Customers on above job are lovely people, happy to pay our rates and want things done properly, but how do they allow and pay for this type of rubbish. It seems to be rife in London.

 

[pirate]

Is it just me who has a hatred of seeing sockets with the switches "on" and nothing plugged in?

 

[telectrix]

Is it just me who has a hatred of seeing sockets with the switches "on" and nothing plugged in?

a bit like hoisting the mainsail when there's no wind.

 

[Strima]

Is it just me who has a hatred of seeing sockets with the switches "on" and nothing plugged in?

Yes, the amount of wasted electricity leaking out really winds me up, such a waste...

 

[telectrix]

Yes, the amount of wasted electricity leaking out really winds me up, such a waste...

used to be able to stop that with the child socket protectors.
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daren't comment on the state of that shower. i'll get reported for dirtybuggerism.

 

[freddo]

Just fit IP rated sockets and make sure the lid is closed properly.

 

[westward10]

Spent most of the day reconnecting swa cables at lighting bollards as none of the armour has been earthed. Pretty straight forward cables plenty of length, the outer casings come off the bollards and the sun is out. Three to go then this, needless to say the circuit now has three less lights on it.

 

[Toneyz]

I suppose the SWA is not in ducts so that you can pull any slack from the previous bollards?

 

[westward10]

No chance. All the others are bone dry with lots of slack this one looks like it has been underwater.

 

[telectrix]

time to get the kango out.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Disconnect at both ends and run in a new link cable while the sun still shines

 

[westward10]

Disconnected at previous bollard, client informed and on the road

 

[ipf]

Spent most of the day reconnecting swa cables at lighting bollards as none of the armour has been earthed. Pretty straight forward cables plenty of length, the outer casings come off the bollards and the sun is out. Three to go then this, needless to say the circuit now has three less lights on it.View attachment 51889

Same sort of problem...except this one was flattened and then run over umpteen times by drivers parking half on the grass. I was measuring for some sort of replacement until the client decided he didn't want a 20m trench digging for rewiring. Absolutely no spare length and solid through underlying concrete and in pvc tube. Isolated at previous bollard and left as.

 

[SparkyChick]

No chance. All the others are bone dry with lots of slack this one looks like it has been underwater.

Good example of why you should always use external glands outside, regardless of whether they are exposed to the elements or not.

 

[westward10]

Good example of why you should always use external glands outside, regardless of whether they are exposed to the elements or not.

That's the other odd thing all the others had outdoor glands on them.

 

[Dustydazzler]

That's the other odd thing all the others had outdoor glands on them.

Probably just ran out and only had internal ones left

 

[FatAlan]

Customer with two brick pillars either side of drive entrance. Wants lights (which funnily enough don’t work) on top of each pillar replaced. There’s brick lights with junction boxes and T&E at the base of each pillar. See pic I believe the main feed from the house is SWA so hoping with a bit of digging I can find the end but suspect the loop to the other pillar is just buried T&E so they may have two hopes of me sorting it without disturbing their nice block paved drive.

 

[FatAlan]

Customer with two brick pillars either side of drive entrance. Wants lights (which funnily enough don’t work) on top of each pillar replaced. There’s brick lights with junction boxes and T&E at the base of each pillar. See pic I believe the main feed from the house is SWA so hoping with a bit of digging I can find the end but suspect the loop to the other pillar is just buried T&E so they may have two hopes of me sorting it without disturbing their nice block paved drive.View attachment 51900

Mean while at the top of the pillar we have a silver birch well and truly rooted into the light

 

[Markyd]

Found today.....wired by the local handyman......Triple socket fcu

 

[FatAlan]

Mean while at the top of the pillar we have a silver birch well and truly rooted into the light

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Always amazes me how adaptable life is, which does bode well for the planet long after we’ve f****d up it’s present form.

 

[Admin]

Bumping this. This shouldn't have gotten lost.

 

[LabourForApprenticeship]

Every single floor installed with wagos without any form of enclosure. Just shoved into the ceiling. First time working in an commercial job site, alarmed at the practices. Not the fault of workmanship but the owner of the electrical company refusing to spend money on key things... even can't be bothered to buy brown sleaving for sw identification. Clearly some of the electricians failing to check connections if connections are tight and then powering sub mains board. This is how fires start.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Unfortunately this is very typical penny pinching , I have done new builds where you would be handed box of Stuff to do a job.
No blue sleeve , no brown sleeve , no grommets , no nothing.
Just told don’t bother with any of that stuff and just chuck it in.
I have very often supplied my own grommets and sleeve just to feel better how I leave the job.

 

[littlespark]

That last photo is a looped neutral, not a switchwire without brown sleeving. Or were you showing us a loose connection?

The cpc's should have been connected to the metal backbox. Why waste money on a bit of choc block connector when the box has one already there.

 

[LabourForApprenticeship]

Unfortunately this is very typical penny pinching , I have done new builds where you would be handed box of Stuff to do a job.
No blue sleeve , no brown sleeve , no grommets , no nothing.
Just told don’t bother with any of that stuff and just chuck it in.
I have very often supplied my own grommets and sleeve just to feel better how I leave the job.

These people are getting million pound contracts... awful practices. Need reporting tbh. I wouldn't want another glenfell incident on my conscience.
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That last photo is a looped neutral, not a switchwire without brown sleeving. Or were you showing us a loose connection?

The cpc's should have been connected to the metal backbox. Why waste money on a bit of choc block connector when the box has one already there.

Showing loose connection. Board was live and signed off

 

[Dustydazzler]

Is that a loop terminal for the neutrals ?

 

[freddo]

Backbox not earthed either?

 

[ipf]

Is that a loop terminal for the neutrals ?

Well your common is your loop for lives.
Not seen those, though.
Looks like it's just being used as a one gang one way.
The back box should be earthed....just lazy.

 

[westward10]

The switch is poorly marked the Hager ones have an N terminal. I am pretty sure that Loop terminal is for the neutrals.

 

[sarky spark]

A tad beyond repair.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Was that still live...?

 

[telectrix]

if it is, it's close to death. that box looks like my lungs after 60 years of smokes.

 

[Pharlo]

wouldn`t want to be turning that iso switch

 

[littlespark]

That’s it’s IP rating well compromised!

 

[sarky spark]

was still live, about 2.8M above the ground in a publicly accessible place.

 

[westward10]

I think that is one of the best corrosion damage pics I have seen where everything is still in situ.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I’m not sure what’s more concerning then , the risk of shock or risk of tetanus

 

[FatAlan]

A tad beyond repair.

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Back in the UK’s pre EU days all Leyland and Dagenham made cars used to look like that after a couple of years. Good thing is there are probably legions of 70 pluses out there who are dab hands with wire brushes and fibreglass who could patch that up in no time.

 

[telectrix]

give it to Fuzz Townshend of car sos. he'll have a new box welded up and sprayed in 10 minutes.