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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[DPG]

Beaten to it quicker than a tripping RCD.

Ooh I like that phrase. I'll remember that one.
Come to think of it my Mrs mentioned something similar when we were in bed the other night.....

 

[Dave OCD]

Yeah the tw@t lol. Fastest finger first.

 

[Dave OCD]

'If my dog had a face like yours I'd shave its @rse and teach it to walk backwards'.

 

[DPG]

This is going to go downhill rapidly I feel.

 

[DPG]

Yeah the tw@t lol. Fastest finger first.

She said that as well

 

[Dave OCD]

You're on top form tonight !

PS Any Man U fans about on here ?? I've more or less finished winding up all the ones I know.

 

[DPG]

You're on top form tonight !

No, she never said that unfortunately

 

[Raptor0014]

10.5kw shower, 45a switch, 6mm T&E and a 63a MCB as the OCPD with no RCD. This is the result....

But at least they lined it up with the light switch.

 

[DPG]

10.5kw shower, 45a switch, 6mm T&E and a 63a MCB as the OCPD with no RCD. This is the result....

But at least they lined it up with the light switch.

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To be fair, if the terminations had been secure and tight then that combination would probably have lasted years.

 

[mainline]

Looks like another case of bad joint /cheap isolator.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Notching the joints was the plumbers way, and I think electricians back then followed suit, and probably still do to a certain degree, as sometimes needs must.

Brings back memories though of live nails poking out the floor, or the missus shouting up the stairs that there's water dripping from the ceiling.


If that wiring was staying, I would notch some nail plates into the floor board, better than having to junction box the cables just to divert them through some joist weakening holes.

I still have a load of "SafePlates" in a box somewhere....

 

[Dave OCD]

10.5kw shower, 45a switch, 6mm T&E and a 63a MCB as the OCPD with no RCD. This is the result....

But at least they lined it up with the light switch.

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It looks like a 'Click' switch which are normally pretty good , probably just badly terminated. I hate those 10kW + showers, ridiculous amount of current draw really.

 

[Taylortwocities]

It looks like a 'Click' switch which are normally pretty good , probably just badly terminated. I hate those 10kW + showers, ridiculous amount of current draw really.

And, yet again, its the neutral connection that failed. Funny that.

 

[littlespark]

I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

 

[mainline]

I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

I never had a problem with 50 amp Crabtree pull cords, double terminal screws helps.

 

[nicebutdim]

I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

Some charge points have very low torque setting for supply cable - astoundingly low and I tend to spend a bit of time getting stranded conductors bedded in before torquing.

 

[Dave OCD]

I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

Should have tightened that neutral another half turn.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Must admit when I first started out on this rocky road I was surprised how much more torque I could get with the correct terminal screwdriver with approximately the same amount of effort.

 

[nicebutdim]

Must admit when I first started out on this rocky road I was surprised how much more torque I could get with the correct terminal screwdriver with approximately the same amount of effort.

Assuming terminal screws are made from something more substantial than the cheese certain manufacturers consider acceptable for this purpose.

 

[Mike Johnson]

For the last ten years I have only used Hagar and they seem to last well, although I do like a bit of Roqefort with my port.

 

[sheppertonspark]

I think the neutral might have been a bit loose!

 

[sheppertonspark]

Open ended cable chucked under the office floor tile, they could've at least turned the Isolator Off !

 

[sheppertonspark]

DIY at its best.

 

[sheppertonspark]

Don't put the junction boxes in the wall cavity it makes fault finding really hard - Builders again.

 

[sheppertonspark]

Buried in the Lounge wall, neutral continuity fault on Ring Circuit, found it with a Fluke cable tracker, couldn't believe how accurate it was.

The cable had been cut when they chased in some speaker cables, The line on the wall is where the tracker said the break was, impressive bit of kit.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Impressive bit of kit indeed, at the cost I would expect it to repair the break automatically as well.

 

[Dave OCD]

And make tea for you as well

 

[LewisM]

Might catch some diyers out

 

[MJPD29]

Might catch some diyers out

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Worked in a large government building where majority of lighting was wired in blue, black and earth single, blue being phase and black neutral. The sheer amount of fittings with reverse polarity was scary.

 

[littlespark]

Worked in a large government building where majority of lighting was wired in blue, black and earth single, blue being phase and black neutral. The sheer amount of fittings with reverse polarity was scary.

are you sure it wasn't black line and blue neutral?

most fittings can work reversed.... its just when line somehow gets connected to cpc that things get tricky... as the upside down sticker in the picture would could lead to

 

[Dave OCD]

It would have been pre colour changes I expect from a 3 phase db with blue being the phase colour supplying that particular circuit.

 

[brianmoooore]

are you sure it wasn't black line and blue neutral?

That's the way around I'd expect. We changed to blue because it was the most common neutral colour, and away from black as neutral because it was used as live in some countries, as it is now in the UK.

 

[Dave OCD]

It all depends on the age of the install, which we don't yet know.

 

[123]

That's the way around I'd expect. We changed to blue because it was the most common neutral colour, and away from black as neutral because it was used as live in some countries, as it is now in the UK.

And what a well thought out move that was. Would have been far better keeping it as it was.

 

[nicebutdim]

Worked in a large government building where majority of lighting was wired in blue, black and earth single, blue being phase and black neutral. The sheer amount of fittings with reverse polarity was scary.

Had similar last week. Building from around 2000, with emergency lighting using black for neutral, red switched live and blue permanent live. Strange thing was this was all in some sort of shielded flex, so I couldn't understand why these colours were present.

 

[MJPD29]

are you sure it wasn't black line and blue neutral?

most fittings can work reversed.... its just when line somehow gets connected to cpc that things get tricky... as the upside down sticker in the picture would could lead to

I thought it was originally but traced it back to find the circuits wired in red, yellow, blue singles with black neutral. All fittings had been changed to led and working with reversed polarity. Only realised when we went to test.

 

[Dave OCD]

Ah old Dave guessed correctly.

 

[MJPD29]

Had similar last week. Building from around 2000, with emergency lighting using black for neutral, red switched live and blue permanent live. Strange thing was this was all in some sort of shielded flex, so I couldn't understand why these colours were present.

That's a strange one. Was there a yellow in it or just red/black/blue?

 

[nicebutdim]

That's a strange one. Was there a yellow in it or just red/black/blue?

Red, black, blue & green/yellow, with shielding.

Was thinking maybe a yellow core had been cut back, but I'd changed a load of fittings and don't remember any signs of another core.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Was it the wasps or the mice that eat the phone cable?

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