Eicr requested after consumer unit replacement

[zenonek]

I have replaced consumer unit in small rented property, on pre visit found everything fine. Replaced,tested all the circuits, all sound, issued eic.

For letting agency eic is not enough, Eicr is due now, and they wouldn't accepr Eic instead, are they right?

Thanks

 

[Welchyboy1]

Re. Doing an eicr before board change.

Doing it this way in a perfect world would help greatly

I have found that it just really complicates things on the quoting phase and the customer would just get someone else, maybe its the way i explain it though lol

I usually find a reasonably thourough on site survey when quoting is easier for me and if i do get caught out just swallow it

I do allow for it if i think problems might be apparent

However i always undertake
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Ins/res between l-e/n-e
Check positions of gas/water services
Check a good few switchpoints and sockets
Look out for additions and diy add ons

Ive been pretty on the money so far

If it seemed like a diy enthusiast or a few reg flags then i would insist on eicr first but mostly wouldnt

 

[ChipFanDave]

I have replaced consumer unit in small rented property, on pre visit found everything fine. Replaced,tested all the circuits, all sound, issued eic.

For letting agency eic is not enough, Eicr is due now, and they wouldn't accepr Eic instead, are they right?

Thanks

What is the reason for this now being due ?

 

[zenonek]

its all ok guys, most of you answers are quite obvious to me, but taking into account landlords rules, are they allowed to keep eic (board change, no comments, installation sound, inspected and tested) in records instead of eicr that is due?
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What is the reason for this now being due ?

eicr due to 5 years period, consumer unit swap due to being plastic, faulty rcd, cracked case and generally client scared of fires..

 

[ChipFanDave]

its all ok guys, most of you answers are quite obvious to me, but taking into account landlords rules, are they allowed to keep eic (board change, no comments, installation sound, inspected and tested) in records instead of eicr that is due?

Why is it DUE ?

 

[zenonek]

y years eicr on the cons unit sticker
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Why is it DUE ?

5 years eicr on the cons unit sticker

 

[davesparks]

You are also advised to do an EICR Prior to board change.

Maybe someone does advise this, but there is nothing requiring it.

And certainly nothing that a letting agent has anything to do with.

 

[SJD]

As stated quite a few times above, you issue an EIC for a board change.

The new letting rules ask for an EICR (every 5 years), which is pretty much the same testing as for a board change, plus some additional inspection.

In this situation (and I'm doing 1 or 2 per week right now) - with the landlord or letting agent agreement - I issue the EIC for the board change, plus an EICR for the new rules - reflecting the installation post board-change. And I add an amount to the invoice to cover the additional work and admin, but it is far more cost effective for them compared to having them done separately.

 

[ChipFanDave]

y years eicr on the cons unit sticker
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5 years eicr on the cons unit sticker

If it's been five years since the board change then I think an EICR request is reasonable and works with the letting rules. It shouldn't be seen as a bad thing it should be applauded.

 

[zenonek]

If it's been five years since the board change then I think an EICR request is reasonable and works with the letting rules. It shouldn't be seen as a bad thing it should be applauded.

no, board been changed just now, at the same time as 5 years eicr is due

 

[7029 dave]

IMO, if you cave into the letting agency and provide them with an EICR without charging them, you have then set a president and they will expect it every time.

 

[ChipFanDave]

no, board been changed just now, at the same time as 5 years eicr is due

Well in that case your EIC is for the board not the whole installation. I can see your point that you've tested the circuits but it doesn't certify that you have inspected and tested the rest of the installation. It doesn't mean you shouldn't charge for the EICR.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

there is a lot of confusion. with the letting agent i do a lot of work for we have worked out which need eicrs due to not having a valid one, if there is one in place then at a change of tenancy with no changes or alterations etc they will get me to do a visual check. their insurance company have approved this as has the council hmo office

 

[Tommy2002]

you will have tested some stuff when you swapped unit put in your agreed limitations what you have tested and bill accordingly for your time

 

[westward10]

If it was a new build then an EIC would hopefully validate the safety of the installation however, an EIC for a consumer unit change does not encompass the same scope as it is only applicable to the works carried out. If an EICR is due then it should be carried out.

 

[Lister1987]

I would undertake the extra work (to obtain any readings not taken during EIC process) issue a cert as required and bill accordingly.

A CU change is just that, it doesn't always do the same in-depth testing as an EICR.