EU Brexit - How will you vote given the latest "news"

Do you want to remain in the EU

  • Yes - stay in

    Votes: 16 19.0%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 4.8%

  • No - time to leave

    Votes: 64 76.2%
  • Total voters
    84
  • Poll closed .
Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

Archy Styrigg said:
:smilielol5::smilielol5::smilielol5:Impeccable logic!!! :smilielol5::smilielol5::smilielol5:
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It's probably a better way to look at it though. The UK, particularly the SE is hugely over populated. House building hasn't happened at the rate it's been needed for 30-40 years, but the population has rocketed a lot more than anybody could have predicted.
 
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Englishman said:
It's probably a better way to look at it though. The UK, particularly the SE is hugely over populated. House building hasn't happened at the rate it's been needed for 30-40 years, but the population has rocketed a lot more than anybody could have predicted.
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Hum.....no.

The population explosion started around 2003 and has continued since :

United Kingdom Population | 1960-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

Its 2016 now and little has been done by this and the 2 previous Governments .....

The cost of living crisis is DIRECTLY related to the increase in housing costs - strip out housing and most of our costs haven't changed.
 
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Definately vote to leave, the place is a mess. We can make our own laws, look after our own island a bit like how we used to.
This whole europe thing seems like a huge waste of time and money.
I'm sticking my neck on the line but i reckon huge change is just round the corner.
 
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Don't ask me what the answer is, I'm a house basher not a politician, but somehow, soon, something has got to be done about the outrageous housing situation. I feel so desperately sorry for the younger generation, they must despair when they look around and see so many older, comfortably off people, when they are facing such a hard time of trying to get on the ladder. Thanks to the whankers in RBS and the likes, they now face impossible deposits, either that or they are at the mercy of unscrupulous landlords who do not give a ---- about anything other than the maximum profit. It is about time the rental sector was regulated and people stopped from buying houses purely to rent out. How's this for a disgusting facet of capitalism, today I became aware that about 3 young couples turned up at a house viewing for a small terraced house, a very rare thing round my way. After waiting 30 mins with no agent arriving one of them phoned up to be told "oh sorry we have had a lot of interest and have had to cancel the viewings" No phone call, no nowt. Turns out some 62 year old retired bloke with too much disposable income has paid £10K over the odds so he can rent it out. It's disgusting and should be stopped. Margaret Thatcher is largely responsible for the lack of social housing by selling off all the council house stock, along with all the other general ****ing up of the country that happened on her watch. Oh and just for the record I am definitely in the OUT camp.
 
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If Cameron wins concessions - the UK will be "paying" for it for decades.

OUT, OUT, OUT

Leave this undemocratic farce behind.
 
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diditrain said:
No doubt we will hear the speech soon, about how well he has negotiated on our behalf.
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bloody plonker couldn't negotiate his way out of no'10 without help.
 
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Tesco today said my click and collect was ready, I arrived and it wasn't , I left empty handed, I blame Maggie.

On a job today my SDS battery would not hold a charge, I blame Maggie

My poor ----- (cat) had to have a tooth out and I was landed with a £400 bill, I blame Maggie

Friggin left rear tyre went flat today, I blame Maggie.

She has a lot to answer for ... RIP..... SC off
 
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Murdoch said:
If Cameron wins concessions - the UK will be "paying" for it for decades.

OUT, OUT, OUT

Leave this undemocratic farce behind.
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Leave it for the what, the democracy we have here? At least the EU Parliament uses a system of PR, which allows smaller parties to be heard, whereas the Uk uses FPTP, which doesn't. A party with a little over a third of the votes holds an absolute majority, while the second placed party, with fewer than 7 percentage points less, has almost 100 fewer seats. Now, my question is, how do you describe one system as 'undemocratic' while blithely accepting the other?
 
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YoungScud said:
Leave it for the what, the democracy we have here? At least the EU Parliament uses a system of PR, which allows smaller parties to be heard, whereas the Uk uses FPTP, which doesn't. A party with a little over a third of the votes holds an absolute majority, while the second placed party, with fewer than 7 percentage points less, has almost 100 fewer seats. Now, my question is, how do you describe one system as 'undemocratic' while blithely accepting the other?
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AND when you compare that to the way the Scottish votes were cast and how many seats were won ....... the SNP used to favour PR but not now. I wonder why?
 
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Murdoch said:
AND when you compare that to the way the Scottish votes were cast and how many seats were won ....... the SNP used to favour PR but not now. I wonder why?
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What do you base that claim on? The SNP very much favour PR. I'm not quite sure how you expected them to fight a General Election other than by the prevailing system. I fear you're just making stories up now, so here's a challenge. Find me a single example of an SNP official championing FPTP and I'll agree with you. Here's me not holding my breath.
 
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Good luck Mr Cameron !!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
 
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I Respect the views of others, just saying I'm voting OUT. My opinion will not change. I don't expect, or want to change anyones opinion.
I'm only interested in electrical topics, sometimes I can't help posting on political issues I feel strongly about.
I almost wish we didn't have an off topic section on the forum, but we do, and for me it's a distraction at best, and at worst a chance to allienate people I need to help me.
Love and peace y'all !
 
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Well Cameron has got his deal but as they say the devil is in the detail

Will we now hear what horse trading has been done to get his "special" deal that needs a referendum asap and not in 2017, I'm very suspicious of what appears as a cut and run and what is being hidden and also the fact that the EU parliament apparently could kill the deal
 
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UNG said:
Well Cameron has got his deal but as they say the devil is in the detail

Will we now hear what horse trading has been done to get his "special" deal that needs a referendum asap and not in 2017, I'm very suspicious of what appears as a cut and run and what is being hidden and also the fact that the EU parliament apparently could kill the deal
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AND what Cameron has verbally conceded to the French "off the record"

No doubt the French will propose something very contentious in the near future and the UK will jump to agree with them.... nothing is agreed in the UK without significant horse trading.

Every 18 days we send a further billion to the EU - so 54 days would cover the NHS deficit. YES just 54 days of EU contributions would plug the £3 billion NHS funding gap. Makes you think.
 
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How`s about this for the ultimate twist. It transpires that leaked papers after the referendum reveal that Cameron really wanted us out. He has had us all fooled with his master plan. Just thinking outside the box.
 
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Phew, just read the entire thread from the start, very interesting. I'm voting to get out, slightly worried about the whole referendum being corrupt though. :thinking: But I'm not sure if the most important aspect of all this has already been mentioned in the 10 pages of posts so far- can we revert back to our sensible wiring colours ? :biggrin:
 
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The EU vote WILL BE A FARCE.

The EU muppets have stated that they will only formally discuss and agree the UK "concessions" AFTER the 23rd June and ONLY if we vote to stay.

WHO do they think we are? a class full of 3 year olds?
 
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Murdoch said:
The EU vote WILL BE A FARCE.

The EU muppets have stated that they will only formally discuss and agree the UK "concessions" AFTER the 23rd June and ONLY if we vote to stay.

WHO do they think we are? a class full of 3 year olds?
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smacks of blackmail there. they're so afraid to lose our billions, they'll pull any stunt to influence a "stay in" vote.
 
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I await the billions we will lose etc etc and the rest of the crap the spin doctors will give us (like they did to keep Scotland in the UK) Folk will listen and change there vote to stay.
Lets get out is my advice but the Odds are against it.
 
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mykey said:
I await the billions we will lose etc etc and the rest of the crap the spin doctors will give us (like they did to keep Scotland in the UK) Folk will listen and change there vote to stay.
Lets get out is my advice but the Odds are against it.
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Not now we have Boris on board!!
 
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Boris like to portray himself as a "tim nice but dim". don't be fooled. he's no fool. i look forward to him becoming the next PM with us out of the EU.
 
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telectrix said:
Boris like to portray himself as a "tim nice but dim". don't be fooled. he's no fool. i look forward to him becoming the next PM with us out of the EU.
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If he was a fool i think he would have been ridiculed as one in the press by now
 
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telectrix said:
Boris like to portray himself as a "tim nice but dim". don't be fooled. he's no fool. i look forward to him becoming the next PM with us out of the EU.
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I'm not convinced about the PM bit but I am totally convinced we should get out of the EU. I am fed up of people doing the UK down and making comments that we wouldn't be able to succeed on our own and wouldn't be able to enjoy some of the benefits. How do they imagine we got on before we got involved in all this EU crap?? We didn't become the greatest country on the planet with the help of the EU did we?? And before some smart-arse says we are not, why does everyone want to come here?? And another thing, if you want to know what Europe really thinks of us, just look at the voting for the next Euro-vision song contest, or more like, the Euro lets not give the UK any votes even if they do and always have had the best musicians in the world" contest.
 
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sparksburnout said:
I'm not convinced about the PM bit but I am totally convinced we should get out of the EU. I am fed up of people doing the UK down and making comments that we wouldn't be able to succeed on our own and wouldn't be able to enjoy some of the benefits. How do they imagine we got on before we got involved in all this EU crap?? We didn't become the greatest country on the planet with the help of the EU did we?? And before some smart-arse says we are not, why does everyone want to come here?? And another thing, if you want to know what Europe really thinks of us, just look at the voting for the next Euro-vision song contest, or more like, the Euro lets not give the UK any votes even if they do and always have had the best musicians in the world.
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I'm for staying in but your post is interesting. Who's putting the UK down? I'm certainly not and I've not heard it in any of the remain arguments, and of course we would be able to succeed outside. That's not the point, the argument is whether we're better off in or out. You should argue your point around that and not put words in your opponents mouths.
Unless of course your'e a politician.
 
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andyb said:
I'm for staying in .
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I'm not sure myself what is best. I'm more inclined to go for the Out option.
From your point of view Andy, what to we lose from leaving?
 
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agree with a ll the first bit of your post. we should vote "OUT". as for the eurovision, i'll vote for rammstein if the germans vote for black sabbath. now that would be a proper eurovision contest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lVdMbUx1_k
 
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Why is it the outcome of Cameron's negotiations have not been more widely publicised in detail or it is it that nothing is set in stone and an in vote will just resume the current status quo with no change

EU reform is a term being used a lot in the last few days but whats on offer isn't reform it is minor meddling to fudge the real facts IMO.

I think both sides need to provide reasoned facts as to in or out and get away from fear factor sound bites yes it is difficult to know or predict what will happen with an out vote

Given the current financing of the EU should the UK leave how does the EU plug the hole in their accounts and survive, it seems to be an all or nothing situation across the channel what are the other EU states thinking as they don't appear to have any plan should the UK vote no will there be an EU to be on the outside of

There is a lot of mileage left in the stay or leave debate and during the next few months the case has to be made on facts and not fear as to whether we stay or leave for me any reform of the EU had to be a lot deeper than what has been negotiated as the EU megalomaniac juggernaut is out of control with little accountability for it's actions
 
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UNG said:
There is a lot of mileage left in the stay or leave debate and during the next few months the case has to be made on facts
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The problem is, where do we get these 'facts' from? Can't believe the BBC news, or the newspapers. We will just be fed that the media want us to think...
 
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sparksburnout said:
I'm not convinced about the PM bit but I am totally convinced we should get out of the EU. I am fed up of people doing the UK down and making comments that we wouldn't be able to succeed on our own and wouldn't be able to enjoy some of the benefits. How do they imagine we got on before we got involved in all this EU crap?? We didn't become the greatest country on the planet with the help of the EU did we?? And before some smart-arse says we are not, why does everyone want to come here?? And another thing, if you want to know what Europe really thinks of us, just look at the voting for the next Euro-vision song contest, or more like, the Euro lets not give the UK any votes even if they do and always have had the best musicians in the world" contest.
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Jeez, I'm glad we're not arrogant nor nuffin'.
 
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Here's my contribution;

If we leave, we can send the immigrants back - Turks make good kebabs though. We can have shillings & half crowns, feet & inches, and buy a Melton Mowbray pork pie made in scotland (be more expensive thou, cos the scots have gone independent).

If we stay, we won't need a passport for the booze cruise to Calais. The french will still have to speak english. And we keep a cap on low mobile roaming charges - not that I travel a lot to Europe - except Calais.

Anyone seen Boris's Dad? Looks a cross between Donald Trump and Paddy Ashdown.

Go on my son!
 
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Midwest said:
Here's my contribution;

If we leave, we can send the immigrants back - Turks make good kebabs though. We can have shillings & half crowns, feet & inches, and buy a Melton Mowbray pork pie made in scotland (be more expensive thou, cos the scots have gone independent).

If we stay, we won't need a passport for the booze cruise to Calais. The french will still have to speak english. And we keep a cap on low mobile roaming charges - not that I travel a lot to Europe - except Calais.

Anyone seen Boris's Dad? Looks a cross between Donald Trump and Paddy Ashdown.

Go on my son!
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Sounds great to me.....
 
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and,, as for that angela meerkat woman... we stopped her lot from turning europe into a 1 party state in 1945. now it's coming in the back door, time to let the dogs out.
 

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