Is the 2391-20 design and verification course worth completing?

iceman · Jul 16, 2009

hi does anyone know about the 2391-20 course for design and verification is it worth doin at some point or is it just another con by the trainin scemes to blag some more cash out of ya

scotsparky · Jul 16, 2009

its is a very good course its a follow on to the 2391 testing and its a lot of work. I opassed the theory side but have to redo my project.

The coures itself goes into great depth all desigh and maths and regs so you will get to know the regs and maths very well

I would say do it its hard work but worth it.

zupos40 · Jul 16, 2009

It a great course if you go to a good college or other training theirs a 60 hour project, including diverity loading calculation cable design on say police stations, doctor surgeries, stables detention centres, it suites and silimar type installation, the theory very detailed as well GN 1 and 3, all of BS7671 relating to design and if you possess 2391 inspection and testing you get exemption on the practical otherwise there is a practical as well.

I would recommend the course as long as you have the time to study I spent 8 to 10 a week doing project, exam type questions course lasted 20 week studied at CNWL

iceman · Jul 16, 2009

iv been thinkin about it as im gettin me head round the calcs now i got me 2391 exam next week i best pass that first
before i take on another mission, would i need a sound understanding of cables and operating tempetures disconnection times etc if i was to take it up?

skatingsparks · Jul 21, 2009

If anyone can do that assignment in less than 20 hours then they must be unemployed. If your unemployed and an electrician, then you must not be a very good electrician. The assignment takes TTTttttiiiimmmmeee if you want to do it properly. Seriously, the exam depends on how well you were taught. Found it lot easier than the testing exam.

iceman · Jul 21, 2009

its should be a breeze thn has i thought the 2391 practical was a walk in the park the theary tho is prooving to be a different story! lol

skatingsparks · Jul 22, 2009

Doing the exam tommorow? Its kind of hard. The questions are not bad, its just interpreting what they are asking makes it tricky. Yep, practical is pretty straight forward.

iceman · Jul 22, 2009

its only straight forward if ya knw wot ya doin! got my 2391 theory tomoz thn got the 10 year wait for the results thts the hard bit!

ryanryan · Jul 22, 2009

Does anyone know the pass rate of the 2391, was 12 in my class. Only myself and 1 other passed.

iceman · Jul 22, 2009

its a 70% fail rate in the uk my college had about 20 on the last exam 4 went through.

ryanryan · Jul 22, 2009

that sounds about right on my course, thats pretty awful...
so whats happening to the 70%?
not being able to part p register!
whos signing off all there work?

BillR3 · Jul 27, 2009

Got my certificate on Friday, passed all 3 units, happy days.
Tough exam and the project is more like 80 hours work, no kidding

Good luck to all that sat the exam.
BillR3

iceman · Jul 27, 2009

10 day project thn, when ya doin the installation side is it in a booth or somethin like tht?

BillR3 · Jul 27, 2009

iceman
What installation are you talking about?
BillR3

iceman · Jul 27, 2009

isnt there a practical part installing conduit, metel trunkin, micc, fp200 etc i thought it was design, construction , inspection and testing?

Mac · Jul 27, 2009

skatingsparks said:
If anyone can do that assignment in less than 20 hours then they must be unemployed. If your unemployed and an electrician, then you must not be a very good electrician. The assignment takes TTTttttiiiimmmmeee if you want to do it properly. Seriously, the exam depends on how well you were taught. Found it lot easier than the testing exam.

Why is that then.If you are unemployed you are not a good electrician.Please tell me why.Many Thanks Paul

iceman · Jul 27, 2009

im NICEIC need i say more!

scotsparky · Jul 28, 2009

Ice man if you think the 2391-10 theory was hard you will have a BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL at the 2391-20 its open book with 3 hours and you need every second of it hers a rough idea of what is asked.

Draw a fully labeled diagram of a HV discharge lighting circuit.
Draw a fully labeled diagram of the method of testing an earthrod
Explaing the reason for gaps in under floor heating systems.

Ther are more question but those 3 i got Its very interesting and i PASSED mucked up the project though so will resit that.

iceman the project is on paper for example an office block with 6 seperate sections in it you have to show calcfor cable size,explain choice of cable,containmen ect,show on drawing cable routes,fill in a full test cert for 1 sectuion using the cable calcs and lots more. I have scanned my old assighnment sheet in the C&G tell you the Zs and earthing system as well as building constuction

a12jpm · Jul 28, 2009

scotsparky said:
its is a very good course its a follow on to the 2391 testing and its a lot of work. I opassed the theory side but have to redo my project.

The coures itself goes into great depth all desigh and maths and regs so you will get to know the regs and maths very well

I would say do it its hard work but worth it.

Where about's did you do the course? I'm based near stirling and am looking at going down south but really want somewhere a bit more local.

scotsparky · Jul 28, 2009

a12jpm i think Stow college in glasgow is runn ing one in september

a12jpm · Jul 29, 2009

Cheers mate. Bit of a trek from Dunblane but still a good bit closer than the places I was looking at.

scotsparky · Jul 29, 2009

the course id done one day a week for 5 weeks then the exam one night. Dunblane to stow college is abot an hour. mind you its rushour traffic so could be fun going through the roadworks at cumbernauld.

a12jpm · Jul 30, 2009

Sounds good. Don't mind the travelling, running all over Scotland for a customer at the minute. Never mind only another year till the roadworks are lifted on the A80!