Evening all, bought a new house a few months back, recently finished gutting it and am now looking to rewire. The usual wiring will be installed (power and lighting), I'm planning on having speakers in all rooms, and am taking cat5 and RG6 to every room so i can watch HD television and listen to music in all rooms. Just wondering if anybody had any ideas on anything else which would be a nice feature? Lighting in the staircase and plinths in the kitchen is also an option. Any constructive comments would be much appreciated as I've been out of the house wiring game a long time now and am not up to date with the latest gadgets etc.Thanks Lee
Take the lighting feeds to the switch for ease of second fix. The world's your oyster with the rest. Get some lighting product brochures. Don't forget the alarm system.
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R G
Stair case lighting is a good idea along with low level lights in the hall and on the landing with low level occupancy sensors ..
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R G
Low level brick lights around the outside of the house ??
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Octopus
Our flood light (no PIR) for the rear garden is on a 2 way arrangement - 1 by the rear door and the other is in our bedroom (over looking the garden) - really useful.
The loft light is off the boiler circuit so if required, I can work on the upstairs lights and have the loft light on.
Plan for PV - run a suitable cable from the loft to the CU.
Outside sockets front and rear on own circuit so you can switch off the xmas lights easily!
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The loft light is off the boiler circuit so if required, I can work on the upstairs lights and have the loft light on.
Plan for PV - run a suitable cable from the loft to the CU.
Outside sockets front and rear on own circuit so you can switch off the xmas lights easily!
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Fin170
Provision for PV, an electric car charging point and shed
Decent wired fire alarm
LED lighting from the off
Data options everyone else has said
Decent wired fire alarm
LED lighting from the off
Data options everyone else has said
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PEG
...How about a Halon fire-fighting system,mounted above the DB,so you can save a few quid and fit a plastic one...:conehead:
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PEG
...Banning things just makes them slightly harder to get,and a LOT more desirable...which is the reason i prize so highly,my ivory-handled crimps in their panda-skin case :bobby:
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edrobbo8
I don't think it is banned, as we try and use it for our rally cars, it is the only thing that will put out the flames! We are allowed to carry it, but it is illegal to discharge it.
But if your car is going up in flames, a litre of halon will do far less damage to the environment than a car burning out!!!
run all cat5e to a central location (preferably with conduit) then run a cat6 to where the master phone socket is going to be, for when you get fibre (unless you want to joint it and move point)
bt are testing 500mbp/s this year.
the problem with wireless isnt the speed its the interference
bt are testing 500mbp/s this year.
the problem with wireless isnt the speed its the interference
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Engineer54
Then more fool you!!
If you need or want a neutral at the switch positions, then use 3 core T&E for your switch drops!! Switch looping means 3 T&E cables at each switch position and that number escalates as that switch position is used to control different locations or series of light positions. (eg, multi gang switches, two way, intermediate switching)!! That's without factoring in the extra cable this switch looping system will need... Bonkers!!
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Jonspark
and occupancy detectors for lights in bedroom and bathroom.
and steel cu to stop the house burning down.
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Fin170
Better than having 3 cables at the light, less time up a ladder, no extra hidden jbs and more chance of cable fitting in the light fitting too.
why would there be hidden jb's?
wago connectors or connector in the fitting would be fine.
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Jonspark
personally i'd rather loop in at lights than have loads of cables running down wall to switches, can't see the difficulty of working off steps.
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Fin170
Safety mostly, over stairs comes to mind as does needing 4 hands
I prefer at switch but will go to light if I have to...or use a wiring centre, that can be a life saver
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Jonspark
What! don't you have gravity boots down there yet?
we usually go higher than this, our steps extend to over 6m up (tripple extender)
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your arse gets twitchy when your near the top and it starts to sway
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Engineer54
Yeah, ok whatever you say!! If only it was only just 3 cables at the switch position...
Safety aspects in a domestic, .....do me a favour!! More fool anyone that positions a light fitting on a ceiling directly over a stairwell, typically they will be positioned on the top landing...
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davesparks
Or just get the plumber to do it properly and put a seperate heating circuit in for them or feed them from the primaries.
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Fin170
Who said anything about domestic? After that there are high ceilings, stairwell lights and general poor placing...fall from a small height is still enough to cause injury and damage
And cant see why 3x1mm cables in a 1g box is any worse than 3x2.5mm in a 1g box for a spur either
If the OP goes with my suggestion of wiring up the bedrooms on their own circuit (post 14) would it be wrong to put a 6A breaker on the circuit? Working on the principle that no one should use more than 6A in their bedroom...... May have to rethink this figure for the girls and thier hair stuff....
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davesparks
we usually go higher than this, our steps extend to over 6m up (tripple extender)
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your arse gets twitchy when your near the top and it starts to sway
Nothing wrong with the top of a set of onions, now try a tallescope at full extension!
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Leesparkykent
When wiring for down lighters on new builds, extensions and the like when no chasing etc is involved I prefer to feed the switch instead of having 4 cables at the first down light.
ours are a diy set that overhang front and back of a transit and sway a good meter side to side at the top and they will collapse on themselfs as there old and starting to show there age
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PEG
This post will ensure your customers' barrister has an easy 20 minute show,at their compensation hearing...:joker::joker:
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davesparks
So you have been provided with access equipment which is in a poor state of repair and unfit for continued service? Have you formally reported this to the necessary people?
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Engineer54
3 cables will be the minimum, and their aren't any connectors in a socket back box with a spur!! It's starts getting to the point of ridiculous when you need to accommodate several switch lines and their chases/capping etc, for multi gang switches and/or 2 way and intermediates.....
If you need a neutral at a switch position for any reason or just to future proof then just run a 3 core + E to the switches, but switch looping, ...Nah!!!
All this cobblers about needing 4 hands to connect a 3 plate system at a ceiling point just doesn't wash, electricians have been making such connections in their stride for donkey's years without any help whatsoever!!
As i say, if you're daft enough to install or retain a light point at the highest point over a stairwell in a domestic (and this thread ''IS'' about a domestic installation) then more fool you!!
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Engineer54
And what fraction of rewire work that you do, or more importantly others will do, will contain any of that smart technology?? Most rewire work will be basic rewires with additional lighting and power points. Your smart technology is still far too expensive for the average punter, and frankly not as reliable as it should be either, especially for the overall costs of these systems....
The guy asked for some ideas for his own home..
what better opportunity to try out new technology.
done right it is the best way to do things
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Engineer54
Yeah, and then can be totally stuffed when the system or systems go belly up a couple of years or so down the road, and then can't get replacements because the companies gone into liquidation!! lol!!
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