New trainee. Is 4 month training realistic to get qualified?

[Dominik Zajecki]

Hi All
My name is Dominik I have decided to change my career from security manager to qualified electrician. I will be starting my training on 12.08.17 I've been told by the Access trining centre that I should finish the course by December And I couls start looking for job as a electrician improver/mate. Is the time frame realistic ?

 

[Pete999]

A mate maybe bur an Electrician never in a month of Sundays, think you have been had over Dom.

 

[telectrix]

nope.all you'lllearn is the basics. good enough to get a job as a mate, butto be qualified you need core quals (c&g 2365), AM2 and NVQ3. coupled with at least 2 years practical experience.

 

[Adj]

What qualifications have they said you will receive after this 4 month course?

 

[Pete999]

What qualifications have they said you will receive after this 4 month course?

 

[Squid]

Jeeez I did 4.5 years as an apprentice to become qualified 4 months lol,

 

[Specialist]

Jeeez I did 4.5 years as an apprentice to become qualified 4 months lol,

Don't you just feel great ?, Think of all the extra money you could've earned in that time.
I know it gives me a warm feeling

 

[Andy78]

Jeeez I did 4.5 years as an apprentice to become qualified 4 months lol,

Thing is, after a few months and course complete, he won't be qualified, and won't be able to get a job, and will be a good few grand out of pocket, and will have to start all over again. You are definitely best off.

I feel sorry for the poor buggers who buy these courses with good intentions.

 

[Rpa07]

Dominik, that will give you something that an employer may give you a chance and a job as a mate. As has been said 3 years as a mate will allow you to join the dots of all the theory that went in but couldn't be deciphered to real life. As long as you go into it knowing this then you'll be ok, if you don't then you'll crash and burn and be in debt. All the best

 

[Dominik Zajecki]

This is the prospectus of the training I will receive during that time.

 

[telectrix]

 

[telectrix]

condense 4 years into 4 months. is the course run by harry potter?

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

I cannot see any C&G qualifications in that lot.About as much use as a chocolate teapot.

 

[Pete999]

Dom I feel for you, honestly but these con merchants should be exposed.

 

[gutterball]

well, part P is a building regulation, not an electrical course. and as for carrying out PIR's (EICR) there is no way you will have the experience. It takes years of accumulated knowledge and understanding of previous editions of the regs to be competent to properly do EICR's.

 

[casperLennon]

Do not hand any money over. What a ridiculous waste of time that would be. Do it the right way and take the time to learn. It might one day save your life

 

[telectrix]

and the proper quals can be done at night school, usually 2 evenings a week,

 

[Andy78]

If you can get a refund on that course I would do it. You would be best off putting the money towards a proper course to get you properly educated and fully qualified.

 

[Dominik Zajecki]

The cours is going to cost me £3850
The cours provider is Access training academies. And its aproved by C&G. I have been to the centre and it looks trustworthy.

 

[casperLennon]

What qualifications will you have at the end?

 

[telectrix]

The cours is going to cost me £3850

Christ, that's more than my weekly bar bill.

 

[Dominik Zajecki]

The initial payment was £750 and the rest is spread in 10 monthly instalments.
I think I still can get the refund.
I have spoken with advisor today and he said that I will receive a C&G acreditation and level 2 certyficate. And will be able to find job as a Electrician Mate or Improver and within a year I can go for NVQ level 3. And become qualified. When I asked if I be able to apply for CSCS /ECS card he told me that it is not point to apply for the card as I will not be able to work as an qualified Electrician.
Is there any thread on forum. Can I just du 17 edition and start looking for job as a Mate or improver?
I realy d'like to work in this industry and I would like to chose the best way to gain the best experience and be employable.

 

[telectrix]

if you are going to obtain a 2365 level2, that's half way to level 3. this would then be followed by nvq3.

as it stands, you'd get a ecs/cscs card by passing a H&S exam. that's about £40. then you could get on site as unskilled, but could probably blagg agencies to be taken on as a mate. then you'd get the practical experience.

 

[casperLennon]

You can get an Ecs card now, it would be a labourers card. After a level 2 you still need level 3 nvq3 and am2 and 17th edition. I think it sounds very suspect what they are telling you

 

[Karin]

what tel said. electrical labourers ecs card for work as a mate. if the level 2 qualification isn't 2365 then forget it. part p and pat testing are a waste of money, but loads of places throw them in cheap to "bulk out" the "value" of the package. 17th edition would usually be a must and definitely help with agencies, but would it be better to hold off for the 18th now.. ? must be getting that way..

 

[Dominik Zajecki]

Is it worth to spent so much money just for level 2 ? Im aware that beginings will be tough And Agencies will be involved thats fine with Me as my goal will be NVQ level 3 and experience is crucial.

 

[telectrix]

look at the alternative college route.

 

[Rpa07]

look at the alternative college route.

And you'll give yourself a bunch of time to read up on theory and watch a lot of you tube vids and get yourself a mate job as they'll see your view and long term goal.

 

[Electric Magic]

You'd be much better off finding a part time course at a local college. The sheet your provided doesn't list 2365 level 2 and I'd bet if that was what was on offer they'd be making a big fuss about it in the paperwork. A local college would cost a lot less and you'd be able to find work as labourer and then improver as described by others above. The course would take 9 months part time but you'd have a recognised qualification. You could then build on that will a level 3 course, AM2 etc. The qualifications you'd get on the Access course are intended as add-ons for existing electricians with installation experience. A lot of private training companies take advantage of loopholes provided by the schemes that "regulate" domestic work to sell these add-on courses as a route to being an electrician but if you do it most likely you'll come out feeling unprepared and possibly like you've been had (and if you don't you'll be one of the people that we all worry about irresponsibly doing shoddy domestic work and endangering your own and other people's lives).

 

[Dominik Zajecki]

So I will take your advise and I will put that course away and I will apply for collage and take it from there. Thank You All very much.