Ratchet crimper

[markadams]

Hi,

I have just managed to loose my ratchet crimper set, I am sure I left them at a customers house but they deny seeing them.

I had the draper expert set in a case with ratchet crimper and lots of different crimps.

I need to replace it, but was wondering if I should get one of the crimpers with interchangeable crimp jaws or just go for the standard crimper which only does insulated crimps.

Would be useful to get any suggestions on a recommended brand as well.

 

[Scotford14]

Hi Mark.

I've not used the interchangeable crimper but they look smart.

When you buy a pair have a look at the jaws. Some only crimp on half the jaw, which means you have to crimp twice.

James

 

[Stu1312]

Hi Mark.

I've not used the interchangeable crimper but they look smart.

When you buy a pair have a look at the jaws. Some only crimp on half the jaw, which means you have to crimp twice.

James

Some of the ratchet crimpers for insulated crimps have jaws that are only designed to be used in one direction, the die only crimps the connection to the conductor not the insulation they don't need to be crimped twice and produce a better crimp as you are not damaging the insulation of the crimp by compressing it to the same depth as the conductor.

 

[snowhead]

Anything multifuction is always bulkier /heavier.
If you use insulated most of the time, just replace what you had.

 

[telectrix]

see my post in the insulated pliers thread. the pic of the ratchet crimp tool.not cheap but look good. and haupa do one with interchangeable jaws.

 

[Simonslimline]

I have A pair of Cembre crimpstars for the red yellow and blue crimps. They seem like decent quality. They make others as well for bigger/uninsulated crimps.

 

[Robotstar5]

Just replaced mine with some Facom crimpers, nice bit of kit and will crimp from both sides.

 

[shanky887614]

Just replaced mine with some Facom crimpers, nice bit of kit and will crimp from both sides.

thats what i like about my cheap silverline ones.

it makes it easier if you can crimp from either side

 

[Carlosfandango]

I need crimpers for insulated crimps, butt crimps up to 16mm and ferruuls. Is there an all in one or is it separates? Any suggestions? I like the look of the knipex ones.

 

[uksparks]

I've got several pairs of Knipex crimpers, or ratchet crumpets as I have called them before, they are very good.

 

[Adam W]

I need crimpers for insulated crimps, butt crimps up to 16mm and ferruuls. Is there an all in one or is it separates? Any suggestions? I like the look of the knipex ones.

Hammer?
Seriously though you really need the proper crimpers for each type of crimp, although IMO the 'pliers' type crimpers are OK for ferrules because the terminal screw will be screwing onto the crimp - you're not expecting it to be holding two cables together under tension.

 

[shanky887614]

I need crimpers for insulated crimps, butt crimps up to 16mm and ferruuls. Is there an all in one or is it separates? Any suggestions? I like the look of the knipex ones.

ive got a set of knipex ferrule pliers

cost me £20 and go from 0.25-16mm

my lasy ck set only went upto 2.5 but the knipex go lower lol

 

[rapparee]

Buy Crimp Tools Pressmaster Crimp Tool Pressmaster 4300-0054 online from RS for next day delivery.

This is my set of crimps for lugs.

I have a weidmuller set for ferrules


Buy Crimp Tools Weidmuller Crimp Tool Weidmuller 9011680000 online from RS for next day delivery.

 

[markadams]

Hi,

Thanks for all the replies, I seem to be drawing the conclusion that very few sparks use the crimpers with the interchangeable jaws. The Only reason I was looking at them is the convenience of having everything in one pouch.

I only use the crimpers for eyelets and butt connectors so maybe I should just be looking at stand alone tools of a better quality and maybe a pair of ferrule crimpers as well.

Thanks its given me some good info.

 

[uksparks]

ive got a set of knipex ferrule pliers

cost me £20 and go from 0.25-16mm

my lasy ck set only went upto 2.5 but the knipex go lower lol

are these good? I was thinking of getting a pair of these the other week but didn't.

 

[markadams]

are these good? I was thinking of getting a pair of these the other week but didn't.

I have done a search for these and I can only find this model in the US, where can you get these in the UK for £20?

They do look good.

Mark.

 

[Plonker 3]

I have done a search for these and I can only find this model in the US, where can you get these in the UK for £20?

They do look good.

Mark.

Its amazing how good the internet is these days.

 

[uksparks]

This is the VDE pair that I was going to get:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knipex-Crimping-Pliers-sleeves-ferrules/dp/B00FBPVL0M

 

[Plonker 3]

Why get the VDE ones? I don't think crimping live cables is really a good idea.

 

[uksparks]

Yeah I know, and I don't crimp or touch anything live.

you could use that argument for why do I have everything else as VDE? I like the handles. Cutters, pliers etc, everything is VDE

 

[shanky887614]

I have done a search for these and I can only find this model in the US, where can you get these in the UK for £20?

They do look good.

Mark.

search for 97 71 180

thats the code for them, they are now £26 on amazon but worth it.

there very good and i find them easier than rachets.

a good tip with knipex is always look at the code on the handle, it makes comparing prices a lot easier

(i cant find them for under £26 now but i know i paid less)

there worth a lot more imho though

 

[markadams]

It looks like they have changed the design, the only ones I can find now only crimp 1 - 16mm not .25 - 16mm.

Very annoying.

 

[shanky887614]

It looks like they have changed the design, the only ones I can find now only crimp 1 - 16mm not .25 - 16mm.

Very annoying.

use the part number only in seach or knipex then part number

your looking at a different model, knipex makes different versions of the same tools that look very similar to each other

 

[markadams]

I was looking at the picture of the tool (same as above) and it only covers from 1 - 16mm, I guess the pictures is wrong.

Pleased about that I will get it ordered.

Thank you

 

[Adam W]

I use these ones:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-6222...0989398&sr=1-7&keywords=draper+expert+ferrule
They do the job for £12.95. I bought them because I was crimping a lot of ferrules at the time and fancied an upgrade from using pliers.

 

[shanky887614]

I was looking at the picture of the tool (same as above) and it only covers from 1 - 16mm, I guess the pictures is wrong.

Pleased about that I will get it ordered.

Thank you

zoom in a little, it doesnt show the numbers for the two smaller sizes but the holes are there

 

[telectrix]

i've got this one for when my teeth are aching. haupa. 0.5mm - 16mm.

 

[shanky887614]

i've got this one for when my teeth are aching. haupa. 0.5mm - 16mm.

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the haupa ones are good, couple guys at work have them (i prefer my knipex though as you get more leverage)

 

[Andy78]

Are the Knipex and Haupa ones pictured in this thread any good for copper lugs, or just really suitable for ferrule ends ? I'm looking for a more compact tool for lugging onto earthing and bonding cables up to 16mm and these look as if they might do.

 

[shanky887614]

Are the Knipex and Haupa ones pictured in this thread any good for copper lugs, or just really suitable for ferrule ends ? I'm looking for a more compact tool for lugging onto earthing and bonding cables up to 16mm and these look as if they might do.

no, ive tried it with through crimps and they split them.

what are you using at the moment?

 

[Andy78]

no, ive tried it with through crimps and they split them.

Cheers, I thought that might be an issue. I'll stick with the clunky long arm crimper until I see something better then.

 

[Robotstar5]

Are the Knipex and Haupa ones pictured in this thread any good for copper lugs, or just really suitable for ferrule ends ? I'm looking for a more compact tool for lugging onto earthing and bonding cables up to 16mm and these look as if they might do.

For copper tube lugs you really want something with mechanical advantage/leverage.

 

[telectrix]

Are the Knipex and Haupa ones pictured in this thread any good for copper lugs, or just really suitable for ferrule ends ? I'm looking for a more compact tool for lugging onto earthing and bonding cables up to 16mm and these look as if they might do.

nah. this is what you need for lugs.

Ratchet Crimping Hand Tool 6-50mm² Electrician Pliers Crimper Wire Cable Crimp | eBay

 

[shanky887614]

nah. this is what you need for lugs.

Ratchet Crimping Hand Tool 6-50mm² Electrician Pliers Crimper Wire Cable Crimp | eBay

nah these kind are better, they do 10-300mm and easy to use

a guy that used to work for us had a set and they are great

(not this brand but looks very similar)

 

[Robotstar5]

ive got a set of knipex ferrule pliers

cost me £20 and go from 0.25-16mm

my lasy ck set only went upto 2.5 but the knipex go lower lol

Have you tried them on .25?, I do a fair bit on .25/.34 and find some crimpers don't live up to the specs and give me a loose ferrule I can pull the wire out.

 

[Andy78]

nah. this is what you need for lugs.

Ratchet Crimping Hand Tool 6-50mm² Electrician Pliers Crimper Wire Cable Crimp | eBay

Cheers Tel, those look the business and cheap too. They are a hex crimp die right ?

I've been stuck with one of these type for ages and they are a right pain to use for lugs so small. Very inexact and not really a suitable die shape.

 

[shanky887614]

Have you tried them on .25?, I do a fair bit on .25/.34 and find some crimpers don't live up to the specs and give me a loose ferrule I can pull the wire out.

sorry i havent tried it on .25 but i havent had a loose one yet (if you need to the very ends are pliers so could always give them a squeeze)

we tend to use 0.75 minimum upto 6mm depending on the length of run

 

[Robotstar5]

nah these kind are better, they do 10-300mm and easy to use

a guy that used to work for us had a set and they are great

(not this brand but looks very similar)

Nice and easy to use, when set right the hydraulics "break" at the correct crimp pressure so a perfect crimp every time.

 

[Robotstar5]

sorry i havent tried it on .25 but i havent had a loose one yet (if you need to the very ends are pliers so could always give them a squeeze)

we tend to use 0.75 minimum upto 6mm depending on the length of run

Thanks, I tend to mainly work on .25 to 2.5, panel builds & signal wiring.

 

[Andy78]

nah these kind are better, they do 10-300mm and easy to use

a guy that used to work for us had a set and they are great

(not this brand but looks very similar)

Cheers Shanky but I'm just after something small for my domestic work.. those are a bit overkill. I have used those hydraulic type before and they are amazing, the set I used cost a fair bit more than that though.