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The first result is due about midnight mate. It'll only be, at best, an indication and could be wildly inaccurate because of geographical differences so I'm not sure whether there's any point in staying up.
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The first result is due about midnight mate. It'll only be, at best, an indication and could be wildly inaccurate because of geographical differences so I'm not sure whether there's any point in staying up.
Bit of presumption there as none of the votes are counted yet!
Here's a thought that just occurred to me. People, including me, are saying that there's too many unanswered questions for a yes vote to be viable but are those questions not going to be answered based on the outcome of the referendum?
IE, if they vote no then there's no need to start the discussions about what we do about X but if they vote yes then get round the table
Errr, if it's No, in a month's time, I reckon that the vast majority will have forgotten about all this.
There'll be rumblings about further devolution amongst the hardcore.
It's just another event, it's happened, forget it, move on. It's the British way!
I'm on News24 atm mate. I agree about the massive ramifications, this could mean the end of Cameron, the end of the current political system, the beginning of a US style fedaral UK.Whether the outcome is Yes or No - this will have massive rammifications across the whole of the UK for years to come.
Are you watching BBC1 at the moment?
Alec Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon won't let us forget - their faces will be on our TV all the time - because the "promises" of changes made by the 3 buffoons (Cameron, Clegg & Milliband) will need to be voted through Parliament - and I can't see that being an easy task!
I'm on News24 atm mate. I agree about the massive ramifications, this could mean the end of Cameron, the end of the current political system, the beginning of a US style fedaral UK.
It really is huge.
Why could it be the end of Cameron? Well, he's the man in charge so if it's a yes he's the one responsible for the break up of the union. If it's a no then he's the figurehead of the group who have promised Scotland more powers which are currently being plotted against by many back bench MPs so he's in a no win situation.
The upheaval had to happen sooner or later though, maybe the timing is unfortunate but it was always going to happen. Our European cousins are quietly ****ting themselves just now because of the ramifications of all this. Catalonia wants to split, as does the Basque territory. Venice wants independence from Italy.
I think that Hollande and the Spanish bloke are just joining in the No bandwagon "Vote yes and all sorts of bad things will happen to you"
"Such as"
"Economic ruin, higher prices, greater risk of terrorism"
"Oh yeah? Why's that then?"
"Erm......I'll get back to you"
The no campaign has concentrated, wrongly imo on the perils of a yes vote instead of stressing the benefits of Scotland staying in the union.
6 or 7 AM will tell what the way forward will look like.
I think this coupled with a whole load of other stuff could mean a Labour (tory-lite) government but it's more likely to be another coalition if I'm honest. Who will be the leader? Probably Milliband but one thing is pretty much certain, Farage will not be a kingmaker.
One thing this could bring in is a kind of federalism, with the various regions wanting greater and greater autonomy.
That's because he knows that the farmers own him (along with a few others) If the french government does something to p1$$ people off there's hell to pay. If Westminster does it there's a lot of loud tutting and frowning.Hollande will veto anything that could damage the more than generous deal under the CAP for his farmers.
Well Mr Hollande - the CAP is holding the EU back so you need to be flexible.
That's because he knows that the farmers own him (along with a few others) If the french government does something to p1$$ people off there's hell to pay. If Westminster does it there's a lot of loud tutting and frowning.
Sometimes we could learn from the French.
From what you posted on that top 10 policies thread you and I are not that far apart mate. The Taffs are getting in on it because their fallout from this could also be massive. If Scotland goes what happens to the cash from the Barnett Formula?One thing we can agree on Trev!
I note that the Welsh are getting in on the act - so its going to be one big mess!
Because the French are 50% of the EU if truth be known. Remember what De Gaulle said about us? Non, Non ét Non. And he kept us out for a very long time.But why should the French farmers have the whole EU by the bxllxcks??
Because the French are 50% of the EU if truth be known. Remember what De Gaulle said about us? Non, Non ét Non. And he kept us out for a very long time.
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