I have a 13 year old, he is bigger than me already! I said a few years back "The day you can beat me in an arm wrestle I'll give you £100" he was a skinny little thing at the time so I thought it will be a while before I have to shell out some cash. Hmmm... we had an arm wrestle on Friday and it took all my strength to beat him. Obviously I pretended it was easy :tongueout:, kids seem to be so big these days!

My 13 year old lad is nearly as tall as me.... I'm 5ft 11.5 inches.... (Yes the .5 inches is important, as I used to be 6 ft and lost .5 inch somewhere.... :cry::cry:)
Luckily he doesn't have the strength of me, or I would be in trouble, as I'm always winding him up...
 
I used to be 6 ft and lost .5 inch somewhere.

silly bugger. you had your hair cut.
 
My 13 year old lad is nearly as tall as me.... I'm 5ft 11.5 inches.... (Yes the .5 inches is important, as I used to be 6 ft and lost .5 inch somewhere.... :cry::cry:)
Luckily he doesn't have the strength of me, or I would be in trouble, as I'm always winding him up...
Oh, he will have, then enjoy enacting his revenge ...
 
I'm losing that as well...
Not a happy bunny....
i am blessed with a full head of hair. then again with a face like mine, anything positive is a bonus.
 
Oh, he will have, then enjoy enacting his revenge ...

I've told him that it just runs in the family. My dad wound me up and now I wind him up. He can have kids so that he can then wind them up... (Not just yet though... 15 years time)
 
tell him if he can beat you at arm wrestling, you'll hand over the reins..... that includes housekeeping, council tax, gas and leccy bills......
 
tell him if he can beat you at arm wrestling, you'll hand over the reins..... that includes housekeeping, council tax, gas and leccy bills......

I'm cr@p at arm wrestling... I'm better at brazilian jiu jitsu... But he whinges when I get him into arm locks... Apparently "its not fare.."
 
I'm cr@p at arm wrestling... I'm better at brazilian jiu jitsu... But he whinges when I get him into arm locks... Apparently "its not fare.."
Farrrrrrrr toooooo much information Mate.
 
I've told him that it just runs in the family. My dad wound me up and now I wind him up. He can have kids so that he can then wind them up... (Not just yet though... 15 years time)
I have three daughters, their tongues get more acidic the older they get.
No physical violence, but damn their withering comments!
 
I have three daughters, their tongues get more acidic the older they get.
No physical violence, but damn their withering comments!

My lad's comments are good... He likes to take the micky out of me. He has the missus in stitches.
It did get him into trouble at school recently. He was doing food tech and cutting up some chicken breasts. His female teacher said "Your meats big." to which he replied "Don't you know it....."
 
My lad's comments are good... He likes to take the micky out of me. He has the missus in stitches.
It did get him into trouble at school recently. He was doing food tech and cutting up some chicken breasts. His female teacher said "Your meats big." to which he replied "Don't you know it....."
Cheeky Chappie then is he????
 
I’m having my 3 bed house rewired plus a load of extra sockets and power run down to shed. Two of the bedrooms have laminate floor. Getting 3 quotes done. First quote has come back at £3400. I think this is way too low for such a big job. Also this guy told me that I would have to have all the sockets raised to 450mm. My house is 50 odd years old so I’m guessing I should avoid this guy like the plague?
 
I’m having my 3 bed house rewired plus a load of extra sockets and power run down to shed. Two of the bedrooms have laminate floor. Getting 3 quotes done. First quote has come back at £3400. I think this is way too low for such a big job. Also this guy told me that I would have to have all the sockets raised to 450mm. My house is 50 odd years old so I’m guessing I should avoid this guy like the plague?
Height only applies to current new builds so not necessary. If you are stripping out the whole house and having walls chased etc for new cables you might like to take a view on socket positions being at a more accessible height? I take it the current sockets aren’t in the middle of skirting and an inch off the floor? 😜
 
Height only applies to current new builds so not necessary. If you are stripping out the whole house and having walls chased etc for new cables you might like to take a view on socket positions being at a more accessible height? I take it the current sockets aren’t in the middle of skirting and an inch off the floor? 😜
No they are about inch above skirting. Walls are concrete so I’m having truncking
 
Sockets must be at least 18" in height off the floor reg IEE
Hello raylec.
It hasn't been the IEE for quite a few years. It's the IET now. The regulation height of 450mm is not in IET publication of BS7671 I believe. Always happy to be corrected though.
You'll certainly find it in the government publication of the building regulations Part M.
Part M is for new builds but also for buildings undergoing 'material alteration'.
Part M then goes on to say (in a complicated way of course), that if the building is undergoing material alteration it can not be any worse than it was.
So basically, you cant make the sockets lower than they were before, but they can be the same height..... usually, unless they were so low before (skirting board) so as to cause mechanical damage, then they should be raised (Reg 553.1.6)
 
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Hello raylec.
It hasn't been the IEE for quite a few years. It's the IET now. The regulation height of 450mm is not in IET publication of BS7671 I believe. Always happy to be corrected though.
You'll certainly find it in the government publication of the building regulations Part M.
Part M is for new builds but also for buildings undergoing 'material alteration'.
Part M then goes on to say (in a complicated way of course), that if the building is undergoing material alteration it can not be any worse than it was.
So basically, you cant make the sockets lower than they were before, but they can be the same height..... usually, unless they were so low before (skirting board) so as to cause mechanical damage, then they should be raised (Reg 553.1.6)
The IET 'Electricians Guide to the Building Regulations' does specifically say that Part M does not apply to rewires.

That said, if you're doing a full rewire, chases etc then I can see few compelling arguments to not use the 450-1200mm zones regardless.
 
That said, if you're doing a full rewire, chases etc then I can see few compelling arguments to not use the 450-1200mm zones regardless.

It's ugly as hell having sockets halfway up the wall.
It makes the light switches far too low and they can easily end up being blocked by furniture.

On a rewire you can often reuse some locations, expecially for switches, and reduce the damage by not changing the height of the box.
 
Flush sockets, an inch above the skirting , would contravene the regs. Surface sockets, in the same position, would not.
Blimey, I'd have thought it would be the other way around.
 
Blimey, I'd have thought it would be the other way around.
The problem is with the flex exiting the bottom of the plug. With a flush socket, the flex will exit just above the skirting, which would be fine with an oval 0.75mm2 twin, but with a 3C 1.5mm2 flex, the plug will be being forced out at the bottom or twisted.
With a surface socket, bringing out the plug another 25mm or 35mm, the thicker flex will be able to hang straight down, over the surface of the skirting.
It will be much more vulnerable to furniture being moved about on a surface socket, but the regs don't really cover that.
 
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