Testing...how far do you go?

[Tonkatoy27]

You are testing the RCD, so one test on each RCD at a 17th board, tested at the CU if you want, is fine.

 

[Tonkatoy27]

I find some people jump to the cowboy references far too quickly on here sometimes, just because someone does something different to the way they do it. My now fully qualified apprentice sometimes takles jobs completely differently from the way I would, it doesn't make him wrong, it just means his thought process is different. Spouting off to someone and calling them names without knowing them isn't very mature and doesn't contribute at all. (schoolyard bully springs to mind)
I see this forum as somewhere qualified sparkies can discuss and learn from each other. However, the DIYer trying to get us to tell him how to wire up his new bathroom lights so he can save a few quid should only be told one piece of advice. Get an electrician in.

 

[Dave 85]

I find some people jump to the cowboy references far too quickly on here sometimes, just because someone does something different to the way they do it. My now fully qualified apprentice sometimes takles jobs completely differently from the way I would, it doesn't make him wrong, it just means his thought process is different. Spouting off to someone and calling them names without knowing them isn't very mature and doesn't contribute at all. (schoolyard bully springs to mind)
I see this forum as somewhere qualified sparkies can discuss and learn from each other. However, the DIYer trying to get us to tell him how to wire up his new bathroom lights so he can save a few quid should only be told one piece of advice. Get an electrician in.

Oh Ive been called cowboy, DIY'er, Electrical Trainee, menace to society etc etc more times than I can remember on these forums. I must admit I do enjoy sitting back and watching people make idiots of themselves. Its quite easy to see how much weight someones opinion carries on these forums by viewing their profile and the people throwing these kind of accusations around usually carry very little.

 

[Chris_Harvey]

As said above RCD test is for each RCD so one test on each is the right way surely, well this is the way i was taught. I also work live on occasions as its not possible to work dead all the time and i would consider myself a new spark having been trained and qualified in the latter end of the 16th edition. Am i scared of it NO, do i respect it YES. I have had a good belt on more than one occasion and that alone makes you respect what your doing more.

The cowboy word is thrown around too often in my opinion before all the facts are gained. Just because someone has a different way of doing things doesn't make them a cowboy and just because they did a Electrical Trainee course also doesn't make them a cowboy but, not testing at all or drive by testing = cowboy, those who just throw it in switch it on and collect the money without a care in the world.
Dave 85 you may not have be recording the info right before but, you were testing it (maybe not to the liking of everyone) and would have investigated further if it had been wrong. Whats wrong with that! Certainly no cowboy in my eyes.

rant over
chris

 

[Guest55]

Out of interest do you guys RCD test every circuit on a dual RCD board? I used to but now just test one circuit on each side.

Do rcd tests at the board with all mcbs turned off to reduce " electronic noise " from appliances.
2 rcd CU = 2 separate tests at the device.

 

[Dave 85]

Do rcd tests at the board with all mcbs turned off to reduce " electronic noise " from appliances.
2 rcd CU = 2 separate tests at the device.

Aye bloody obvious really, I've been doing it that way a while now, Was taught at college to RCD test every circuit. Nonsense

 

[Guest111]

RULES are for the observance of fools and the guidance of wise men Douglas Bader.

 

[telectrix]

i tend to test RCDs at sockets. reason is that i generally use the auto test function and it's not easy to keep probes in contact with the RCD terminals whilst resetting the RCD after each trip. also, IMO, in the real world thae RCD is expected to trip if necessary with circuits and loads connected, so why test with circuits OFF. ?

 

[StuSpiers]

It's your name on the cert not anyone else's so you do what YOU think is necessary.

Shock horror I sometimes do no IR on a CU change instead I bow to the good old bang test.

However I never leave a job without being confident that it is safe.


There I was honest.

 

[tonycoysh]

i tend to test RCDs at sockets. reason is that i generally use the auto test function and it's not easy to keep probes in contact with the RCD terminals whilst resetting the RCD after each trip. also, IMO, in the real world thae RCD is expected to trip if necessary with circuits and loads connected, so why test with circuits OFF. ?

I like this method too. Much easier to plug in MFT and place on floor or kitchen worktop and leave on auto test and not be trying to hold probes and reset the RCD.