scotland again

[Silly Sausage]

Look we all know Tony Blair had his faults but after 18 years of Tory rule think I would have settled for f**king Lionel Blair, now there is someone who should be tried for crimes against humanity.

How was your party? :54:
I was off me trolley at 8'o'clock this morning!
And now the little toad hasn't booked his place in history as the man who liberated Scotland, he's fooked off! :smilielol5::smilielol5::smilielol5:

 

[BES]

Only really watched till about 2.30 got bored watching bunch of silly scots talking about more silly scots. Still can't believe they let 16 yr olds vote my daughter is 17 and it takes her all morning to decide what to wear to college never mind deciding the future of a country madness. Lol

 

[dingledong]

Is Lionel Blair still alive ?

 

[ipf]

Is Lionel Blair still alive ?

Depends who's been doing the electrics in his house......

 

[dingledong]

Mdj or is it because of my continuous fight against your idol Tony or because I said he was corrupt and maybe that's how you got your lots of school work when he was in power

 

[BES]

Is Lionel Blair still alive ?

Yes

 

[trev]

Apparently Wee Eck has resigned. Just saw it on twitter.

 

[dingledong]

Cor he must be old

 

[dingledong]

82 now that's older than me

 

[trev]

There's been a rally in Glasgow tonight to celebrate the no vote. It's been taken over by the Orange Order and various similar right wing groups. ---- salutes being flashed around. Violence in the streets surrounding the place.
Is this what the no campaign has become?

 

[dingledong]

I thought Glasgow voted yes ?

 

[dingledong]

What news thread is this on not the bbc

 

[Dcf]

Aye indeed trev .
it was always gonna be the case that the bams would float to the top like the ****e that they are.
one of the things I like about running my show is the interesting people I meet.
one guy I was at tonight is a pretty high up dentist in the nhs.
he said that he met Nicola sturgeon when she was the health minister for the nhs and said that she was one of the sharpest operators he had come across.
which surprised me no end!
wee eck has got what he wanted in the first place .more devolved powers.
its cost him his position though.
i was way to busy today to be bothered about what could have been, but I personally feel we have missed a trick . Ah well as archy says 6 month from now it will be all forgotten about.
what will not be forgotten is labour and millibands performance.
they will not be elected in Scotland for a long time that is assured.

 

[Diddy]

There's been a rally in Glasgow tonight to celebrate the no vote. It's been taken over by the Orange Order and various similar right wing groups. ---- salutes being flashed around. Violence in the streets surrounding the place.
Is this what the no campaign has become?

Unfortunately this was part of the No campaign...But to be fair the Yes side have their own idiots too....People who vote due to their religious beliefs and their bloody football colours are just knuckle draggers....the sad fact is we have to live with them. Good thing is most cant even read or write so could not put their X in the box with any accuracy. (Can you tell it bothers me ? )

 

[trev]

I was related to Lord Billy Blyton and remember him as a rough but very shrewd political operator, through the family connections I met Kinnock and couldn't help but be impressed at how he presented himself as a fantsticaly smooth operator. He had a knack of making people feel like they were the only person in the room who mattered.
I guess it's a skill that all politicians have and probably most rock stars too.
Michael Foot was well worth talking to as well. Pity there's not many old school socialists left.
Long live Denis Skinner!

 

[Dcf]

What news thread is this on not the bbc

Kinda says it all dingle
the BBC give Pravda a run for their money these days!

 

[dingledong]

We'll I am disappointed I know there are biases in reporting but not to report at all ! Just seems wrong

 

[dingledong]

Well have found one news thread but just says police contained etc etc nothing about orange order or ---- salutes . what's ----'s got to do with Scottish independance

 

[Adam W]

I'm optimistic about this - I think Scotland has (only just) made the right vote and I think that has given the politicians the shake up they need to do what the people want.
I'm hoping Scotland will be able to have their own Labour or SNP led parliament while issues in England and Wales will be decided upon by English or Welsh MPs as appropriate, whose decisions affect their constituents, which I think will be good for everyone.

If I hadn't already said before I was hoping for a no vote, for the purposes of things like defence and commerce.

I admit I was wrong when I said there would be a 'resounding no' - the result was closer than I thought it would be.

 

[dingledong]

But bigger than what lots of people thought

 

[jimmymac]

There's been a rally in Glasgow tonight to celebrate the no vote. It's been taken over by the Orange Order and various similar right wing groups. ---- salutes being flashed around. Violence in the streets surrounding the place.
Is this what the no campaign has become?

I'm surprised the BBC reported on that, they're usually quite selective about what the people need to see and what they don't

 

[jimmymac]

Well have found one news thread but just says police contained etc etc nothing about orange order or ---- salutes . what's ----'s got to do with Scottish independance

Absolutely nothing but some of the O,O are not too dissimilar from ----'s, they just won't admit it or they are too ignorant to realise

 

[dingledong]

Well there is a short bit about it on BBC news now ,so what is the best internet news to go on for fast unbiased informed non gory news

 

[telectrix]

Sunday Sport.

 

[rapparee]

Violence in Glasgow as loyalists attack pro-independence supporters | UK news | The Guardian



---- story

 

[dingledong]

Sunday Sport.

Just looked. Hmmmm most informative

 

[trev]

I'm surprised the BBC reported on that, they're usually quite selective about what the people need to see and what they don't

I didn't get it from the BBC mate, a mate of mine lives up there and he told me over the phone.

 

[BES]

Err its Glasgow. Rangers v Celtic. Prodies v catholics. Nobody never noticed before.

 

[Dcf]

Errrr no it most certainly was not.
try imported ulster orange order types, sdl right wing nutters and other associated bottom feeding low lifes.
last night was about a 6 hour riot which made about5 seconds of coverage on Pravda/BBC .
where more pressing newsworthy items such as some boy dropping his new iPhone 6 were deemed more important.
the devo timetable which was meant to be announced the day after the event of a no vote has been missed and will most likely be backtracked on
likewise the pledges made I would imagine.
it would be fair to say that scots who voted no didn't sign up to this nonsense.

 

[Diddy]

Well there is a short bit about it on BBC news now ,so what is the best internet news to go on for fast unbiased informed non gory news

Believe it or not Russia Today tends to report what is happening in the UK quicker and with less bias than ANY ok our own media. As it goes they had a live feed from George Square running all day and night yesterday and were the first news agency to report yesterday evenings goings on.....They are obviously biased when reporting about pro Russian stuff....But as said brilliant for reporting events that have bugger all to do with Russian politics.

 

[Diddy]

Err its Glasgow. Rangers v Celtic. Prodies v catholics. Nobody never noticed before.

Most people have moved on from the knuckle draggers mate. That is why the trouble was restricted to a few hundred....even though both teams have 50,000 support most weeks. We are talking about a minority of idiots....I live 10 mins away from the area btw.

 

[BES]

All Glasgow is a extention of N lreland split down middle catholics and prodiees any excuse to chuck rocks at each other. All a Yes vote showed is there are more catholics in Glasgow.

 

[Diddy]

Errrr no it most certainly was not.
try imported ulster orange order types, sdl right wing nutters and other associated bottom feeding low lifes.
last night was about a 6 hour riot which made about5 seconds of coverage on Pravda/BBC .
where more pressing newsworthy items such as some boy dropping his new iPhone 6 were deemed more important.
the devo timetable which was meant to be announced the day after the event of a no vote has been missed and will most likely be backtracked on
likewise the pledges made I would imagine.
it would be fair to say that scots who voted no didn't sign up to this nonsense.

We will get limited or no extra powers .....everyone was warned and I think anyone with a brain and a memory should have realized this. If people voted no in response to these promises then the whole situation is sadder than I first thought.
The Labour party are already saying some powers (Not all that was mentioned) for Scotland but none for England and Wales and NI....Their Mp's will just chuck that out the window.
The Tories (Bless em) are Saying they want to stand by the agreement as well as give powers to the rest of UK....Also want to maintain Barnett as well as Mp's only allowed to vote on policies in their part of the UK...(I actually agree). But backbenchers don't like it and Lib Dems don't like it so that's not going to happen.
Lib Dems....are irrelevant
UKIP - Same as tories really - a coalition between the two next year could see most of the policies pushed through.
Then finally you have the Lords.....They have the power to block or slow down almost everything lol.

 

[Octopus]

I think the Barnett formula needs to be reduced, so that the Scots pay more themselves - after all, Holyroyd has the powers to raise taxes, so they can if the Scots want to maintain the services the English are subsidising.

 

[trev]

UKIP - Same as tories really - a coalition between the two next year could see most of the policies pushed through.

I see UKIP as no more relevant than the Lib Dems, I can't for the life of me see them getting more than about 5 seats and that is nowhere near enough for Farage to achieve his dream of being kingmaker.
He annoys the life out of me anyway the way he bangs on about people being let down by the political class. He's one of them! He's quite happy to take his salary from an organisation he decries while doing absolutely nothing for the people he is supposed to represent and the kippers see him as something close to a god.

 

[Diddy]

All Glasgow is a extention of N lreland split down middle catholics and prodiees any excuse to chuck rocks at each other. All a Yes vote showed is there are more catholics in Glasgow.

So me living in Glasgow and you living in Coventry makes you more informed about the situation up here than me ? Ok cool beans. Like I said GREAT strides have been made in Glasgow and the west of Scotland....the idiots are the minority and they are dwindling.

 

[Diddy]

I think the Barnett formula needs to be reduced, so that the Scots pay more themselves - after all, Holyroyd has the powers to raise taxes, so they can if the Scots want to maintain the services the English are subsidising.

So you want us to subsidize you lot even more ? lol Because we pay more in than we receive from Barnett.....I hope they do go for the reduction too though .....as there would be another referendum within 10 years....

 

[shanky887614]

So me living in Glasgow and you living in Coventry makes you more informed about the situation up here than me ? Ok cool beans. Like I said GREAT strides have been made in Glasgow and the west of Scotland....the idiots are the minority and they are dwindling.

i like to think some of us pay attention to what goes on in scotland, i know i do i have relatives there

 

[Diddy]

I see UKIP as no more relevant than the Lib Dems, I can't for the life of me see them getting more than about 5 seats and that is nowhere near enough for Farage to achieve his dream of being kingmaker.
He annoys the life out of me anyway the way he bangs on about people being let down by the political class. He's one of them! He's quite happy to take his salary from an organisation he decries while doing absolutely nothing for the people he is supposed to represent and the kippers see him as something close to a god.

I agree he is a ****. I was just pointing out the way the politics seem to be heading south of the border.

 

[Octopus]

So you want us to subsidize you lot even more ? lol Because we pay more in than we receive from Barnett.....I hope they do go for the reduction too though .....as there would be another referendum within 10 years....

As far as I can tell the Genie is out of the bottle concerning the Barnett formula and this "hot potato" needs to be sorted.

Leaving it unchanged, is not an option.

The English think this, so do the Welsh. Needless to say the Northern Irish are keeping quiet as they benefit the most.