Roof access harness

[gnselectricals]

Wanted tidy quality roof access harness or recommendations on where and what to get. Working installing solar pv to commercial buildings usually pitched corrugated metal roof and looking for something a bit more comfortable than that which the co provide.
Cheers guys and girls

 

[shanky887614]

Wanted tidy quality roof access harness or recommendations on where and what to get. Working installing solar pv to commercial buildings usually pitched corrugated metal roof and looking for something a bit more comfortable than that which the co provide.
Cheers guys and girls

have a look at a climbing shop, they should stock them, are you sure your wearing it right because i haven't found an uncomfortable one yet

 

[netblindpaul]

Should not be needed, collective fall protection is the required method, not individual fall protection.

 

[rapparee]

Should not be needed, collective fall protection is the required method, not individual fall protection.

If he was using a restraining lanyard rather than a bungee fall arrest lanyard you would be preventing the fall in the first place.

 

[gnselectricals]

Yeah we're working of scaffold with harness and 2mtr restraint ropes at the scaffold position then a automatic winch type device to go up the roof. Not too sure on the technical terms etc

 

[Rockingit]

Petzl Navaho. Effortlessly comfortable and I can even keep mine on and have a pee. But you'll wince at the price!

 

[rapparee]

Yeah we're working of scaffold with harness and 2mtr restraint ropes at the scaffold position then a automatic winch type device to go up the roof. Not too sure on the technical terms etc

Have you been trained to put the thing on right tbh it should be comfortable i cant actually recall the particular brand of my harness, i think miller is the big brand if you want to spend extra on a harness.

 

[shanky887614]

Have you been trained to put the thing on right tbh it should be comfortable i cant actually recall the particular brand of my harness, i think miller is the big brand if you want to spend extra on a harness.

most people dont know how to put the things on.

i lol when i see people trying to put it on and all i do is undo buckle then do straps up after lol

 

[rapparee]

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but does anybody know the correct way for washing your harness, we would get grease/oil on our gear working on machinary, when we were doing our working at heights course we were told washing detergent may weaken the actual harness and lanyard

 

[gnselectricals]

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but does anybody know the correct way for washing your harness, we would get grease/oil on our gear working on machinary, when we were doing our working at heights course we were told washing detergent may weaken the actual harness and lanyard

How dare you lol
Yeah I was shown how to put it on but was looking for something a bit more padded etc with quick release buckles if poss as Im quite lazy.
Will have a look about at the petzl's etc as I don't mind spending my hard earned either
Cheers

 

[shanky887614]

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but does anybody know the correct way for washing your harness, we would get grease/oil on our gear working on machinary, when we were doing our working at heights course we were told washing detergent may weaken the actual harness and lanyard

https://www.millerfallprotection.com/smart-solutions/faqs/can-i-wash-my-harness-lanyard

 

[netblindpaul]

Why should you pay for PPE that it is your employers responsibility to provide.
Also, a fall arrest harness is not required, neither is a fall restraint, there must be collective protection first, if there is more than one person doing the work.
If you are relying on fall arrest, or restraint harnesses then you MUST have a rescue plan in place to get the people to a place of safety within the required time, and 999 is NOT a rescue plan.
It seems from what I am reading that the employer is delinquent in their statute law responsibilities.

 

[davesparks]

The employer has provided the PPE but he wants to supply his own more comfortable kit, what's wrong with that?

 

[rapparee]

Why should you pay for PPE that it is your employers responsibility to provide.
Also, a fall arrest harness is not required, neither is a fall restraint, there must be collective protection first, if there is more than one person doing the work.
If you are relying on fall arrest, or restraint harnesses then you MUST have a rescue plan in place to get the people to a place of safety within the required time, and 999 is NOT a rescue plan.
It seems from what I am reading that the employer is delinquent in their statute law responsibilities.

Not necessarily so if it is not reasonably practical for the employer to put up safety nets for a short term job they don't have to.

ALARP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[netblindpaul]

Who said anything about safety nets?
I said collective fall protection, that does not equal safety nets.
Why would you need safety nets unless you had a chance of falling through a fragile roof, in which case fall restraint harnesses would be positively dangerous and you would require fall arrest.
Please be careful out there on the assumptions you make.
It is your employers responsibility too make your workplace safe.

Oh, I know quite a LOT about ALARP if you want to discuss it, if I can be bothered.

 

[netblindpaul]

The employer has provided the PPE but he wants to supply his own more comfortable kit, what's wrong with that?

Because it is the statute law duty of the employer to provide suitable PPE, if it is not sufficiently comfortable then it is not suitable.
Also if he provides his own PPE and it fails, and he dies, do you really think that his employer is going to pay out to his family?
He was not using the PPE that the employer deemed suitable, he did not raise an issue of any kind with his employer he just used his own, which was not under the control of his employer, nor deemed suitable, thus he is on his own, and now his family will get a reduced pay out because, he spend his OWN money buying kit that his employer has a statute law duty to provide and which must be suitable and sufficient, and comfort is part and parcel of that requirement.

Now I don't know the OP from Adam, but, I would argue to the ends of the earth to protect him in his job, and if things go badly wrong, I would entrust that any advice I had given, even on some random internet forum, would protect the OP & his family AFARP, and ensure that they would get the best outcome.

Please consider your responses and understand the laws and the ramifications.

 

[Rockingit]

http://m.petzl.com/en/Professional/Harnesses#

 

[Rockingit]

And I know a shed load about harnesses, which was the OP!!!!! FFS Paul, can you never just be normal??!

 

[netblindpaul]

I am not TBH aware of the status of the harnesses linked to in the various posts in this thread, however one needs to be aware that leisure climbing harnesses do not need to meet the PPE directive, where as work harnesses do.
So, any harness used in a working environment must meet the PPE directive for it to be suitable for work, that is NOT an option is is essential.
Some may, some may not, I have not checked the links and I am not going to, make your own minds up, but, the PPE Directive is law.
If your PPE does not meet this and you provide it then, you will not be adequately protected if you get hurt, and your employer is breaking the law by allowing you to use it.
If your PPE does not meet this and your employer provides it then they are breaking the law.

It is pretty simple really if you read and understand the statute law surrounding this, which some of us have to for our jobs.

 

[netblindpaul]

And I know a shed load about harnesses, which was the OP!!!!! FFS Paul, can you never just be normal??!

Yes I can rock & I am, why should any employee have to be put at risk in any way means shape or form, or have to spend their own money to protect themselves so that their employer can make a profit at their expense?

Now if anyone out there really believes that employers should still in this day and age be risking their employees lives & health for profit and nothing else, then I'm sorry I can't align with those values even as an employer and never will.
Health and safety must come above profit, if you believe otherwise then good luck to you, but I will never believe that.

Surely there is no-one in this day and age that will put their employees health and lives below that of making profit for the company? Seriously?