Certificate just to change switch

[sham]

I've been told at my new job that I need to conduct a minor cert if I replace Electric shower, light switch, and socket etc.
I always believed a cert was for addition to a circuit. It is my new job I have not debated this yet. It is just too much time consuming to do a cert just to replace a light switch. But my manager said it is a must. Is he right.

 

[telectrix]

right or wrong, he's your boss. a MWC is not mandatory for an accessory change, but it covers your arse .

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

well its a minor alteration when you think about it, as you are not necessarily doing exact like for like replacement, it basically comes down to arse covering... if you were a one man band then its your choice but if employed you do what the gaffer asks...

 

[Octopus]

For me, as a self employed person, I have FAR more important things to do than completing MWC for such minor like for like replacements.

Where relevent I note the Zs on my invoice.

 

[Midwest]

I've been told at my new job that I need to conduct a minor cert if I replace Electric shower, light switch, and socket etc.
I always believed a cert was for addition to a circuit. It is my new job I have not debated this yet. It is just too much time consuming to do a cert just to replace a light switch. But my manager said it is a must. Is he right.

Did he/she say which parts of the cert have to be completed, test results etc.

 

[Ian1981]

Can’t your company just use photocopies of the model from given in bs7671 and stick the company logo on it and just fill it out for maintenance purposes so you have records if needed of any testing?
You could tweak it so that it states in works covered/limitations that any zs taken is from the changed accessory only.

 

[Strima]

Recording results is arse covering and may well get you out of the poop in the future.

 

[The Ghost]

My Father who was an electrician told me when I was young; Always remember boy, the boss isn't always right but the boss is always the boss.

 

[sham]

right or wrong, he's your boss. a MWC is not mandatory for an accessory change, but it covers your arse .

So nobody will say, why are c

Can’t your company just use photocopies of the model from given in bs7671 and stick the company logo on it and just fill it out for maintenance purposes so you have records if needed of any testing?
You could tweak it so that it states in works covered/limitations that any zs taken is from the changed accessory only.

He wants nic cert minor, done online

 

[sham]

Did he/she say which parts of the cert have to be completed, test results etc.

ZS AND RCD IF FITTED.

 

[Midwest]

ZS AND RCD IF FITTED.

I can't see an issue myself. They are relatively simple & unobtrusive tests to carry out. What format of Minor Works do you have to complete, paper or electronic? As others have said, he's the boss.

 

[sham]

Did he/she say which parts of the cert have to be completed, test results etc.

Zs and rcd

 

[sham]

Did he/she say which parts of the cert have to be completed, test results etc.

Zs and rcd

 

[sham]

Did he/she say which parts of the cert have to be completed, test results etc.

Zs and rcd if fitted.

 

[sham]

Online test, NIC.

 

[Midwest]

ZS AND RCD IF FITTED.

Zs and rcd

Zs and rcd

Zs and rcd if fitted.

I got you the first time

 

[Midwest]

Online test, NIC.

You mean online certification?

 

[Dave OCD]

And no doubt the customer will pay for the little job taking twice as long.

 

[sham]

You mean online certification?

Yea

 

[sham]

You mean online certification?

Sorry, yes

 

[Rosco]

At a guess the company you now work for carries out reactive maintenance for a housing association or sheltered housing or nursing home etc.... the reason for the MWC is simple they charge x for the switch and get xx for the cert. That’s business.

 

[rolyberkin]

I think it concentrates the mind to actually test, I do a minor works for everything. I did some work last week and the customer thought the testing was a bit of a joke and overkill as they had seen the 'earth cable' themselves when they put the light up. I found the cpc simply went two meters to another junction box where it was joined to a two core cable!

I know most people will say they do the tests anyway...................!

 

[Midwest]

Sorry, yes

Get him to provide you with an iPad and use the NIC app on site, done and forgotten about (although it has some tech' difficulties at the mo).

 

[sham]

At a guess the company you now work for carries out reactive maintenance for a housing association or sheltered housing or nursing home etc.... the reason for the MWC is simple they charge x for the switch and get xx for the cert. That’s business. [/QUOTEThe company I work for are the housing Associatiob

 

[sham]

Get him to provide you with an iPad and use the NIC app on site, done and forgotten about (although it has some tech' difficulties at the mo).

Yes, that is the plan

 

[sham]

I think it concentrates the mind to actually test, I do a minor works for everything. I did some work last week and the customer thought the testing was a bit of a joke and overkill as they had seen the 'earth cable' themselves when they put the light up. I found the cpc simply went two meters to another junction box where it was joined to a two core cable!

I know most people will say they do the tests anyway...................!

It's just the thought of doing the test for changing an 1way swicth. If it is not law to do the test, why should I.

It delays my other jobs.

 

[sham]

The company I work for are the housing Association

 

[andyb]

And no doubt the customer will pay for the little job taking twice as long.

Unless they charge by the minute, I should think the cost would be the same with, or without a MWC.

 

[sham]

Thanks, but I feel if it is not nessessary by law, I rather go to my other jobs as I help the old and disabled. Carrying out tests just means I have to cancell jobs when I'm needed. I'm fully certified as an quality supervisor. I have been told that I should really be doing it.

 

[sham]

Unless they charge by the minute, I should think the cost would be the same with, or without a MWC.

It taked a minute to change light switch.
Cert does not take a minute.