EICR rules

[Zerax]

That's fair enough. I'm not a big fan of landlords. Housing is an essential, not a luxury, and IMO it's wrong that it should be turned into an easy investment for those who couldn't care less.

If it's such an easy investment... it's a free county... can't you invest in one yourself ?

 

[Zerax]

The electricity in my property has been terrible for the six years I've lived there.

One of the great things about renting rather than owning your own home... is that it's relatively easy and cheap to move. So if you don't get on with the neighbours, or don't like the wallpaper, or get a job many miles away or indeed have dodgy electrics... within a month or so you could be out of there and living somewhere that better suits your requirements.

 

[DPG]

That's fair enough. I'm not a big fan of landlords. Housing is an essential, not a luxury, and IMO it's wrong that it should be turned into an easy investment for those who couldn't care less.

Easy investment? I've spent around £4k this year on a boiler, garage roof and some other stuff. The tennants would never have been able to afford that if they owned the house.

It has regular gas/electric checks and is kept in good order.

And have you seen the rights that tennants have these days?

I know there are bad landlords, but then there are plenty of bad tennants too. Same with anything, even electricians let's face it.

 

[nicebutdim]

I know there are bad landlords, but then there are plenty of bad tennants too. Same with anything, even electricians let's face it.

I think it's easy to view situations throught the lens of one's own experience, but much more difficult to consider situations outside of that experience. We read a lot about landlords and can often slip into the sort of lazy thinking that paints them all as greedy people who hoard piles of money, while expecting their tenants to live in squalor.

Plenty of people become accidental landlords through various circumstances - perhaps an inherited property or someone who lets their home out, while renting elsewhere themselves due to work commitments.

 

[Newbie101]

I may be wrong, but I get the feeling you're more interested in receiving the unsatisfactory report than you are in getting the problems fixed. Do you mind if I ask why?

Because without the evidence from the report - which I suspect would show that the dwelling is in a state that should never have been rented in the first instance - I have no way to prove it.

I'm very interested in getting the problems fixed too. One follows the other.

 

[Newbie101]

The attending electrician never issued the report, so there is nothing for you to receive. They’re not obliged to finish and submit it.
Had he finished it and submitted it, then you’d legally be allowed a copy.

Whilst a landlords duty is to provide safe and habitable accommodation, these inspections weren’t made compulsory until April 1st just gone.
Only a small amount of time has elapsed from when the landlord was legally obliged to sort this and due to Covid, that’s all up in the air at the moment.
Even now I’m still carrying out EICRs for estate agents.

From the sounds of things, it sounds like you’re fishing for issues, so if that’s the case, I’d get an EICR completed at your own cost.
And from the work I’ve seen recently, it might be worth doing one after as well!

If you knew what I've been put through by this landlord over six years of doing nothing by the book, you would know I'm not fishing for problems. What I'm doing is actively seeking legally required documents to use as evidence against him (if relevant). So many illegal things that landlords do are unprovable. This is on that would be provable.

 

[Newbie101]

One of the great things about renting rather than owning your own home... is that it's relatively easy and cheap to move. So if you don't get on with the neighbours, or don't like the wallpaper, or get a job many miles away or indeed have dodgy electrics... within a month or so you could be out of there and living somewhere that better suits your requirements.

There are many reasons that that is not the case for many.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

If it's such an easy investment... it's a free county... can't you invest in one yourself ?

Easy investment? I've spent around £4k this year on a boiler, garage roof and some other stuff. The tennants would never have been able to afford that if they owned the house.

It has regular gas/electric checks and is kept in good order.

And have you seen the rights that tennants have these days?

I know there are bad landlords, but then there are plenty of bad tennants too. Same with anything, even electricians let's face it.

Sigh. The comment wasn't me sulking because I don't own a house, it was a comment on the state of housing in this country.

If you HAVE the money, property is one of the best investments you can make. Even if you only break even on the rent each year, at the end of the mortgage period you still have a house or whatever to sell. The risk is minimal - it almost never fails, unlike other investments. Hand it over to a letting agent, and it truly is an easy investment.

If you DON'T have the money, then you pay for someone else's investment. Even though the banks have decided that you can't afford a mortgage, you pay more than the mortgage would cost each month, because you have to, because the alternative is living on the streets. So the guy who already has the money gets wealthier at your expense.

People know this, that's why there are so many landlords buying up so many properties as investments. Too many. You don't even have to be a british citizen to do it. Someone half a world away can buy up here and rent out, and get a fat wallet at the expense of the poor. How wrong is that? It buoys up the house prices, putting them even further out of reach for those that can't afford them.

 

[Newbie101]

Sigh. The comment wasn't me sulking because I don't own a house, it was a comment on the state of housing in this country.

If you HAVE the money, property is one of the best investments you can make. Even if you only break even on the rent each year, at the end of the mortgage period you still have a house or whatever to sell. The risk is minimal - it almost never fails, unlike other investments. Hand it over to a letting agent, and it truly is an easy investment.

If you DON'T have the money, then you pay for someone else's investment. Even though the banks have decided that you can't afford a mortgage, you pay more than the mortgage would cost each month, because you have to, because the alternative is living on the streets. So the guy who already has the money gets wealthier at your expense.

People know this, that's why there are so many landlords buying up so many properties as investments. Too many. You don't even have to be a british citizen to do it. Someone half a world away can buy up here and rent out, and get a fat wallet at the expense of the poor. How wrong is that? It buoys up the house prices, putting them even further out of reach for those that can't afford them.

Come one guys, we're getting a little off topic here. Suffice to say my landlord is one of the largest property owners in the London and he and his colleagues have form....

I'm just trying my best to not let this slide and add it to the list of seriously negligent things he continues to do. Thanks for all your advice so far,

 

[DPG]

Come one guys, we're getting a little off topic here. Suffice to say my landlord is one of the largest property owners in the London and he and his colleagues have form....

I'm just trying my best to not let this slide and add it to the list of seriously negligent things he continues to do. Thanks for all your advice so far,

Hopefully once the electrical work is done and you have a satisfactory EICR then this will be one less thing to worry about.

 

[loz2754]

Sigh. The comment wasn't me sulking because I don't own a house, it was a comment on the state of housing in this country.

If you HAVE the money, property is one of the best investments you can make. Even if you only break even on the rent each year, at the end of the mortgage period you still have a house or whatever to sell. The risk is minimal - it almost never fails, unlike other investments. Hand it over to a letting agent, and it truly is an easy investment.

If you DON'T have the money, then you pay for someone else's investment. Even though the banks have decided that you can't afford a mortgage, you pay more than the mortgage would cost each month, because you have to, because the alternative is living on the streets. So the guy who already has the money gets wealthier at your expense.

People know this, that's why there are so many landlords buying up so many properties as investments. Too many. You don't even have to be a british citizen to do it. Someone half a world away can buy up here and rent out, and get a fat wallet at the expense of the poor. How wrong is that? It buoys up the house prices, putting them even further out of reach for those that can't afford them.

Word

 

[Newbie101]

Hopefully once the electrical work is done and you have a satisfactory EICR then this will be one less thing to worry about.

I hope so. The remedial work will be quite stressful though too, I imagine. Moving a meter and fusebox won't be easy, or without mess. And that's the only part I know that is required...

I'm a full-time carer for a terminally ill friend, so things are stressful enough without a landlord trying to take the p*** at every opportunity!