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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[ferg]

Does that boiler really have the main supply terminals that close to the edge of the enclosure?! What a terrible design.

Given the mahoosive amount of empty space inside it makes absolutely no sense but yes they are.

TBH with all the things wrong with the install of the boiler and all the issues with the existing install I didn't even notice that.

 

[freddo]

I've always wanted to punish manufacturers and designers by making them install their own products.

 

[JBW175]

Nice garage DB found on an EICR today, supplying lights, sockets and a heater. No RCD protection, armour not glanded correctly, no earth fly lead at either end; and just look at the choice of OCPD.

DIY Dave strikes again…

 

[James]

to be fair, at least they remembered to put the bus bar cover on.
you guys, always look at the negative aspects of installations!!

 

[brianmoooore]

What's the story behind the B63 lying on the top of the CU?

 

[James]

What's the story behind the B63 lying on the top of the CU?

All DIY Jobs end up with a spare bit or two that the instructions don't cover what to do with!!

 

[JBW175]

What's the story behind the B63 lying on the top of the CU?

I don’t know, but I did say to the client that at least the installer (previous owner) stopped short of utilising the B63 for the lights…

My sarcasm may have been wasted on him.

He’s lived there 10 years and said nothings ever tripped in the garage, so it must be good.

 

[123]

I don’t know, but I did say to the client that at least the installer (previous owner) stopped short of utilising the B63 for the lights…

My sarcasm may have been wasted on him.

He’s lived there 10 years and said nothings ever tripped in the garage, so it must be good.

...10 years.

Looks like a more modern metal consumer unit...Are you sure it wasn't the current owner that was maybe the installer
Those MCB's don't look like they would be what was intended for that consumer unit? At least, I've never come across a contactum unit that they would have been made for, it's always been the plastic variety

 

[JBW175]

...10 years.

Looks like a more modern metal consumer unit...Are you sure it wasn't the current owner that was maybe the installer
Those MCB's don't look like they would be what was intended for that consumer unit? At least, I've never come across a contactum unit that they would have been made for, it's always been the plastic variety

Whether it was, or wasn’t, he ain’t admitting to it

You’re right about those MCB’s too, I’ve got loads and they’re all from old plastic boards that I’ve ripped out recently.

 

[James]

I don’t know, but I did say to the client that at least the installer (previous owner) stopped short of utilising the B63 for the lights…

My sarcasm may have been wasted on him.

He’s lived there 10 years and said nothings ever tripped in the garage, so it must be good.

I have a box load of solid copper links, never had one trip wherever i have installed them!!
All must be good there too!!

 

[Raptor0014]

I wonder if anyone can spot the problem with this solar setup……..

What’s even worse is the owner has been going full pelt with the solar since it was installed.

There is no way this has been done by a qualified person. Not a chance in hell.

 

[westward10]

It has Fridays date on it

 

[DPG]

And look how much the bottom has been smashed out of that meter box!

 

[James]

that's got to hurt, finding out you are paying the supplier for all the energy you generate and use.

 

[littlespark]

Edited your own post there, Westy? Friday, not tomorrow…


Yeh…. That’s going to be interesting to explain to the supplier when customer asks for refund.

 

[DPG]

Edited your own post there, Westy? Friday, not tomorrow…


Yeh…. That’s going to be interesting to explain to the supplier when customer asks for refund.

Needs editing again to put an apostrophe in Friday's as well. Not that I'm one for being pedantic

 

[westward10]

Edited your own post there, Westy? Friday, not tomorrow…


Yeh…. That’s going to be interesting to explain to the supplier when customer asks for refund.

I edited it pretty quick how come you noticed.

 

[littlespark]

I edited it pretty quick how come you noticed.

I must have been reading the thread, and trying to work out what the installer was thinking when you edited it. Was still showing original until I refreshed page.

 

[James]

I edited it pretty quick how come you noticed.

Do it right, nobody pays attention
do it wrong and everyone is jumping to point out your failures.
it’s not just here it is a world wide thing!!

 

[mainline]

I wonder if anyone can spot the problem with this solar setup……..

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What’s even worse is the owner has been going full pelt with the solar since it was installed.

There is no way this has been done by a qualified person. Not a chance in hell.

He may as well disconnect his solar system and replace it with another DB for a better rate

 

[brianmoooore]

@Raptor0014 Either you (if the location in your profile is correct) or the installer of the CU were a long way from home.
Where in the UK is it?

 

[mainline]

@Raptor0014 Either you (if the location in your profile is correct) or the installer of the CU is/was a long way from home.

Well you wouldn't want to S*** on your own doorstep

 

[mainline]

And look how much the bottom has been smashed out of that meter box!

On the positive side, it has a very good drain

 

[freddo]

I'm not sure how I feel about this.

 

[ipf]

I'm not sure how I feel about this.
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If you're not sure, decision pendanting, maybe??

 

[Raptor0014]

@Raptor0014 Either you (if the location in your profile is correct) or the installer of the CU were a long way from home.
Where in the UK is it?

It was sent to me by another electrician I know. Should have been clearer when I posted it, sorry.

 

[pirate]

That's horrific @freddo
That pendant isn't hanging in the centre!

 

[telectrix]

That's horrific @freddo
That pendant isn't hanging in the centre!

nor are my bollox.but who cares?

 

[littlespark]

Back to a pub kitchen I worked in a month or so back. His fryers have overheated the sockets.

It’s a duel fryer… 2 x 3kW I recall, and I told him to plug them into different double sockets.
All good.

This is what met me this morning….

13A fuse is welded into the plug, and has melted the front of the socket. Backside of socket has no signs of heat damage.

Replaced the socket and plug, but it’s likely to happen again.

13A plug should be fine for the fryer but it must be the duration that it’s on for during a weekend shift…
Or could it be down to hot oil splashing the socket?
It’s not dripping in grease here, but there is some residue.

The other half of the fryer doesn’t show overheating to this extent.

I’ll quote for installing 2 x 16A radials for the fryers, and do away with the 13A weak spot being the fuse… but no spare ways… gonna be a new board.

 

[DPG]

Back to a pub kitchen I worked in a month or so back. His fryers have overheated the sockets.

It’s a duel fryer… 2 x 3kW I recall, and I told him to plug them into different double sockets.
All good.

This is what met me this morning….

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13A fuse is welded into the plug, and has melted the front of the socket. Backside of socket has no signs of heat damage.

Replaced the socket and plug, but it’s likely to happen again.

13A plug should be fine for the fryer but it must be the duration that it’s on for during a weekend shift…
Or could it be down to hot oil splashing the socket?
It’s not dripping in grease here, but there is some residue.

The other half of the fryer doesn’t show overheating to this extent.

I’ll quote for installing 2 x 16A radials for the fryers, and do away with the 13A weak spot being the fuse… but no spare ways… gonna be a new board.

What brand is the socket, and how old is it?

 

[Dustydazzler]

In theory the fryers should be fine on a 13amp plug top as supplied by the manufacture

The fact the plug top is melting could be sign of a cheapo fake plug top ?

 

[littlespark]

The plug top is moulded on, so it came with the fryer.
It might be that the fuse holder itself was loose.

The socket was a volex… now it’s a BG, cos that’s all I had in the van.

 

[telectrix]

i'd bet on poor contact of plug fuse .

 

[Mike Johnson]

Probably been blowing the fuse often and forced a few into the plug loosening the holder, arc, melt etc:

 

[Mike Johnson]

If you're not sure, decision pendanting, maybe??

Now that's clever, how did you get the ant red? Oops found it.

 

[loz2754]

Now that's clever, how did you get the ant red? Oops found it.

You found a red ant? Kill the little bugger!

 

[Mike Johnson]

Yes it was with the Flea Beatles on my Radish's.

 

[ipf]

Back to a pub kitchen I worked in a month or so back. His fryers have overheated the sockets.

It’s a duel fryer… 2 x 3kW I recall, and I told him to plug them into different double sockets.
All good.

This is what met me this morning….

View attachment 99840View attachment 99841

13A fuse is welded into the plug, and has melted the front of the socket. Backside of socket has no signs of heat damage.

Replaced the socket and plug, but it’s likely to happen again.

13A plug should be fine for the fryer but it must be the duration that it’s on for during a weekend shift…
Or could it be down to hot oil splashing the socket?
It’s not dripping in grease here, but there is some residue.

The other half of the fryer doesn’t show overheating to this extent.

I’ll quote for installing 2 x 16A radials for the fryers, and do away with the 13A weak spot being the fuse… but no spare ways… gonna be a new board.

There will always be problems with a 3kw heating/ cooking load fed via a 13amp plug and socket. It's just the constant load causing heat.
Used to get a lot of it with 3 bar electric fires and these days 3kw fan heaters.
This MK one hidden behind a sofa....he thought there was a funny smell when he had his heater belting it out.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Posted before showing the internals of a twin socket melted due to overload, nothing tripped out as above, I wonder if an AFDD would have tripped and saved the damage to the socket? and more importantly stopped the room smelling of fish.

 

[telectrix]

told you i hated flat plate sockets.