Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[Dustydazzler]

Side cutters

Animal

 

[nicebutdim]

Animal

It's what looks to have been used from the image.

The other side of this is that I often have to squeeze insulated crimps with pliers or grips as most of those sold by wholesalers are cheap carp. You can squeeze all day at cheap crimps with the best of tools and never get a solid connection.

 

[steviethepar]

Screwdriver looks a bit well worn!

served me well that driver may retire it to the great screwdriver drawer in the workshop

 

[steviethepar]

It's what looks to have been used from the image.

The other side of this is that I often have to squeeze insulated crimps with pliers or grips as most of those sold by wholesalers are cheap carp. You can squeeze all day at cheap crimps with the best of tools and never get a solid connection.

Aye should only use proper ratchet crimping tool to ensure correct pressure applied and both the conductor and insulation are crimped
However more importantly - it is sold core T&E and shouldn’t be crimped

 

[nicebutdim]

served me well that driver may retire it to the great screwdriver drawer in the workshop

I've seen worse after a couple of days use.

 

[James]

@steviethepar
You can make a good quality crimp joint on solid core

 

[nicebutdim]

Aye should only use proper ratchet crimping tool to ensure correct pressure applied and both the conductor and insulation are crimped
However more importantly - it is sold core T&E and shouldn’t be crimped

I have a decent ratchet crimper that works well with crimps from the same Italian manufacturer and a few other manufacturers I've tried, but it's useless with crimps from local wholesalers - usually SWA or Termination Technologies.

 

[DefyG]

Couple of 'Dodgy' terminations on a recently refurbished job!

 

[nicebutdim]

Couple of 'Dodgy' terminations on a recently refurbished job!

Looks like recent work on existing cables. Good to see people take such pride in their work.

 

[DefyG]

Looks like recent work on existing cables.

Exactly that!

 

[Mike Johnson]

@steviethepar
You can make a good quality crimp joint on solid core

Hydraulic cripping tool works every time, in fact some of the solid crips can't be used with anything else, a ratchet crimping tool will not touch them.

 

[Dustydazzler]

The red blue yellow dot ratchet crimper I have always been told is for stranded wires like flex and auto wire connections only and never to used to solid conductors.

you need to use a special crimp tool with teeth and the correct crimps to joint solid wires

 

[mainline]

Hydraulic cripping tool works every time

I've never seen a hydraulic crimping tool with a die to fit a small blue/red crimp.

 

[mainline]

The red blue yellow dot ratchet crimper I have always been told is for stranded wires like flex and auto wire connections only and never to used to solid conductors.

you need to use a special crimp tool with teeth and the correct crimps to joint solid wires

Some crimps are suitable for solid conductors, some are not.

 

[nicebutdim]

I've never seen a hydraulic crimping tool with a die to fit a small blue/red crimp.

Battery/hydraulic crimpers available for this very purpose, although not likely anyone's going to buy one for occasional crimps.

EK 50 ML / EK WF 50 ML Electromechanical crimping tool | Klauke

EK 50 ML / EK WF 50 ML Electromechanical crimping tool

www.klauke.com

 

[westward10]

Can we keep this on track discussing crimps has been done to death.

 

[DPG]

Can we keep this on track discussing crimps has been done to death.

Always cheese and onion.

Ooh, you corrected it quickly!!

 

[westward10]

How in went to crisps I don't know

 

[MJPD29]

Couple of 'Dodgy' terminations on a recently refurbished job!

How do they sleep at night? That would drive me mental

 

[Dustydazzler]

How do they sleep at night? That would drive me mental

Scary thing is , people who do carp work like that actually think that they have done a good job.

 

[mainline]

Gone back to using my old crimping tool as these are useless

 

[Dustydazzler]

Those are for heats shrink

 

[littlespark]

Grill for very small panini. ??

 

[LeeH]

Found this while looking through some old pics.

 

[nicebutdim]

Not so much dodgy on part of original installer, but very much dodgy through the passage of time.

15A socket was still in use until an hour ago.

 

[littlespark]

Did you change it to a 13A, or just done away with it?

Rest of the house of a similar vintage?

 

[Dustydazzler]

NBD you have touched it now you are going to have to price to Re-wire the entire Gaff

 

[7029 dave]

Looks like the insulation is fallen off that vir

 

[nicebutdim]

Did you change it to a 13A, or just done away with it?

Rest of the house of a similar vintage?

Chopped in a few boxes which will be supplied by a new circuit.

I suspect a few parts are still wired in rubber, but most has been replaced.

NBD you have touched it now you are going to have to price to Re-wire the entire Gaff

Radial serving that single socket in that single room.

Looks like the insulation is fallen off that vir

Not enough on the floor to cover the neutral, but it was well separated from the line in that old socket..

 

[Dustydazzler]

Its amazong how much of this rubber cable I still come across that is still in service , its fine until you touch it then it just crumbles in your fingers.

 

[nicebutdim]

Its amazong how much of this rubber cable I still come across that is still in service , its fine until you touch it then it just crumbles in your fingers.

Run from the board was fine and perfectly supple and I didn't expect it to be so bad at the socket. I've seen it crumble before, but this stuff was as hard and brittle as plastic where it had fallen apart.

 

[7029 dave]

Run from the board was fine and perfectly supple and I didn't expect it to be so bad at the socket. I've seen it crumble before, but this stuff was as hard and brittle as plastic where it had fallen apart.

In my experience with VIR it aways crumbles at the end where accessories are connected to it, heat does not help, but the material will just degrade naturally over decades of time.

 

[Dustydazzler]

In my experience with VIR it aways crumbles at the end where accessories are connected to it, heat does not help, but the material will just degrade naturally over decades of time.

I am way to young to have installed rubber twin cable , what sort of age are we looking at now. some of this cable must be pushing 80 - 90 years old and still in service in thousands of homes

 

[7029 dave]

I am way to young to have installed rubber twin cable , what sort of age are we looking at now. some of this cable must be pushing 80 - 90 years old and still in service in thousands of homes

VIR singles were used in domestic homes 1910 to the 1950,s possibly 113 years if still in service

 

[nicebutdim]

They reckoned that house was originally wired in the 50s. Probably about the same age as any I've seen - not sure that many houses around here had electricity before then.

 

[nicebutdim]

VIR singles were used in domestic homes 1910 to the 1950,s 113 years if still in service

That socket was wired in flat 2 core cable, although lighting to room below is still insulated & sheathed rubber singles.

 

[7029 dave]

That socket was wired in flat 2 core cable, although lighting to room below is still insulated & sheathed rubber singles.

Yeah saw that, was dating the VIR singles because I know it was used in the early 1900s, dont think the flat twin was that early not sure. Defiantly used in the 50s as you know I would guess 1930 only because have rewired houses of that era with that type of cable.

 

[LeeH]

How not to make off CY off.

 

[mainline]

How not to make off CY off.View attachment 109836

Better not to use it in the beginning

 

[LeeH]

Better not to use it in the beginning

What would you use?