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[mainline]

^^^^^ so not only has a neat installation Benn made rough, but was that RCD needed for fault protection? Looks like a TT system to me!
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Oops just looked again and PME I take it from the second Henley/ service blocks.

You were right the first time it's TT, the meter man removed the Rcd being used for fault protection.

 

[freddo]

Wow, untidy and unsafe!

 

[nicebutdim]

Is it common for meter fitters to remove components which fall outside the scope of their work?

 

[ipf]

You were right the first time it's TT, the meter man removed the Rcd being used for fault protection.

Well he needed somewhere to stick the warning labels....two colours of cable, which ain't needed. Then, a warning not to store combustible materials close to the equipment... at high level, above a door seems weird.

 

[Mike Johnson]

And you can bet they went home thinking I did a good job today.

 

[mainline]

Is it common for meter fitters to remove components which fall outside the scope of their work?

Had one yesterday where I had fitted new cu and isolator a few months ago.
Meter man came to put in a smart meter and replaced the new Wylex rec2 telling the customer that the regs have changed so needs replacing with an eon labeled one.
Needless to say he took the wylex one with him for I assume safe disposal on eBay

 

[nicebutdim]

Had one yesterday where I had fitted new cu and isolator a few months ago.
Meter man came to put in a smart meter and replaced the new Wylex rec2 telling the customer that the regs have changed so needs replacing with an eon labeled one.
Needless to say he took the wylex one with him for I assume safe disposal on eBay

At least he left a new one, regardless of whether it was through idiocy or self gain.

 

[Penguin]

OMG…. The only thing missing from your picture is a GAS pipe .???

 

[mainline]

OMG…. The only thing missing from your picture is a GAS pipe .???

Judging by the standard of work they could very well be gas pipes

 

[DefyG]

This may have already done the rounds but perhaps a reminder to some of the ingenuity of your average sparks!, using a cardboard box as an enclosure! Lots of exposed basic insulation too!

 

[westward10]

Looks like the instructions are in the back.

 

[freddo]

Looks like the instructions are in the back.

Well they certainly never went anywhere near the installers eyes.

 

[mainline]

Well they certainly never went anywhere near the installers eyes.

He was probably blind.

 

[littlespark]

that's got "builder" written all over it.

partly because of the ---- show of an installation, and partly because of the fact that the instructions haven't been followed, read or even moved from the box.

 

[DefyG]

Makes you wonder how the RCD is held there as no evidence of a din rail!

 

[Dustydazzler]

as above , that has 'builders wiring' written all over it

i don't imagin the rcd is fixed to anything, just the cable strain holding it in situ

 

[nicebutdim]

Makes you wonder how the RCD is held there as no evidence of a din rail!

Pretty certain there'll be mention of din rail in those instructions.

 

[freddo]

Got a call to look at lights flickering/not working sometimes. Thought I'd start at the consumer unit, took the lid off and was greeted with this! Note only one conductor is clamped in the terminal of the left hand ring, and the main neutral from the second RCD to the right hand neutral bar was also undone. There were other problems with the lights including loose connections at wago connectors where 2 or 3 conductors hand be connected to a single port.

 

[timhoward]

I got called to a fairly straightforward case - "when I turn on the outside light it trips the RCD".
The before L+N-> E IR test was 0.8 Mohms. I showed the customer, explained bare minimum was effectively 2 (or 1 if you want to argue) and now we'd disconnect the light and see what it jumped to. "It shouldn't be the light, I bought it new and fitted it myself". Ok, let's see.

Ah, factory fitted flex removed, T&E all the way to the light.... the problem wasn't exactly hard to identify:

Snip. >299 Mohms. New joint box. New light.

 

[nicebutdim]

"It shouldn't be the light, I bought it new and fitted it myself".

Priceless.

 

[James]

99% of the time that is like a red rag to a bull, come on and show me the disaster of an installation and I can redo it and go home.
sometimes though it is incredible how much effort a diyer will go to in order for it to be perfect, sometimes with one simple to rectify mistake. Those are the jobs where it is a joy to repair and educate at the same time.

 

[nicebutdim]

Looking again at Tim's image, I don't think a factory fitted flex had been removed. It looks very like connections on LAP floodlights a few years back. They didn't inspire confidence when connection NYY-J or HO7, but in fairness I never did have any issues with water ingress.

I was going to facetiously suggest they rarely lasted long enough to see a shower of rain, but that would be unfair when backed by a 3 year warranty.

 

[timhoward]

Priceless.

To be fair he wanted to know why, and we chatted UV rays and grommet shapes!

Looking again at Tim's image, I don't think a factory fitted flex had been removed. It looks very like connections on LAP floodlights a few years back.

I think you are right. It would have been a sod to terminate, so some respect is due that it worked at all, for a while!

I was going to facetiously suggest they rarely lasted long enough to see a shower of rain,

My current habit is Collingwood units. They seem to be lasting well. Also easy to fit (as are their bathroom bulkheads)

 

[mainline]

To be fair he wanted to know why, and we chatted UV rays and grommet shapes!

I would lean toward talking about payment

 

[Julie.]

I have been asked to wire an Air Source Heat Pump for a Koi pond - no biggie from the electrical point of view.

However, I thought I would check up on the required settings, and plumbing - just in case there is anything special for this application, so came across this video:

I just love the strain relief at 3:20, the bolting straight through the vibration feet at 9:20 (so they're bypassed transmitting the vibration straight through).

Can't see any danger with the consumer unit or wiring to the meter around 10:45 though!

And he and his commenters think he's done a brilliant job.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Left by a wet pants when the boiler spring a Leek, no fuse spur to 3amp, take off the wall and left it has I was when it boiler tripped the RCD.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Hope that isn't LIVE

 

[Dave OCD]

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Left by a wet pants when the boiler spring a Leek, no fuse spur to 3amp, take off the wall and left it has I was when it boiler tripped the RCD.

A flex outlet plate and shallow 16mm wall box, very poor. Are you sure there isn't a fused spur upstream of that Buzz ?

 

[buzzlightyear]

A flex outlet plate and shallow 16mm wall box, very poor. Are you sure there isn't a fused spur upstream of that Buzz ?

No idea, called out by a company that do
emergency calls, isolation was in order
From main boiler, customer getting wet paints back to sort the boiler out, informed customer to tell wet pants to investigate, and if no up stream fuse spur needs one putting in.

 

[mainline]

Another can you put a few down lights in.

 

[mainline]

I just love the strain relief at 3:20, the bolting straight through the vibration feet at 9:20 (so they're bypassed transmitting the vibration straight through).

Strain relief is low on the priority list when you have aesthetics to consider, like the colour of the cable.

Can't see any danger with the consumer unit or wiring to the meter around 10:45 though!

In fairness, he did say he used rubber washers under the metal ones.

And he and his commenters think he's done a brilliant job.

He's so proud of his work, he feels the need to show off the innards of it.

Maybe he could get a perspex cover for it.

 

[bill01803]

What to do when you find one of these on a job

 

[Dave OCD]

That metering arrangement would be very nice to have.

 

[Welchyboy1]

Call out to downlights not working in ceiling, all stopped working together

5x 20w halogen mr11's

Middle floor of a town house, cant lift floor above, unable to locate transformer anywhere

oh, no I know what that means..........

cut a dirty great hole in the ceiling!

 

[mainline]

Hide all your wiring sins under a ton of insulation, just in case someone sees it.

 

[SparkyChick]

I have but one question @mainline ... the first picture, is that cigarette ash or a scorch mark in the center???

 

[mainline]

I have but one question @mainline ... the first picture, is that cigarette ash or a scorch mark in the center???

It could be crushed mice poison, I'm back there Wednesday, I will have a look.

 

[brianmoooore]

There's a PTFE reel and a compression olive in the pic., so the wetpants may have been here with his blowlamp.

 

[DefyG]

Found something similar too last week and daren't look beyond the black tape!!

 

[DefyG]

Just shut the door on this lot!!