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Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

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I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. :omg_smile:

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It amazes me what will still work, this install is probably 40 years old and apart from a newish consumer unit has not been touched. Still has the old coughtree swan neck outside lights and all sockets were the old mk type, mainly singles.
Snipped back the corroded wire and the tarnish didn't go much further that where it was exposed to air and damp. Surprisingly the insulation test came out ok as well! Re-terminated in a lovely wago box and put back into service!
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Another quality job
Caravan supplies no less!
I think it was very lucky for all the spike that is holding this aloft never touched anything live
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inside as the RCD did sweet fa! :eek: :eek:
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Soon made that a bit safer!
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Before anyone comments, yes I did label it all with my trusty dymo!!
 
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It’s bad enough that this sfcu is grouted into the tiles, until you see where it is.

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another pic taken a step back...

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Another step back and I’d be in the shower.

Luckily this point had been disconnected, and another placed through the wall outside the door. At one time this switched the towel rail heater.

(laughed when sfcu was autocorrected to “sexy”)
 
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Yes, I've often wondered about buried stuff like that. There's so much of it about, I can only assume most of it is better sealed than that was - gland not fitted properly or wrong type ?
 
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Simon47 said:
Yes, I've often wondered about buried stuff like that. There's so much of it about, I can only assume most of it is better sealed than that was - gland not fitted properly or wrong type ?
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No idea, I merely showed them it, dried it out a bit and put it back!

I assume they didn't put a gasket/seal between the gland and box.
 
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Same thing as I had to do on a job a couple of weeks ago... spare way but the planks had cut the bush bar too short, so used a short section of 16mm earthing cable wrapped in brown tape to supply my new circuit.

Not sure it's a good idea to use the busbar terminals and the cable terminal at the same time though, I'd be a bit wary of it just in case one of them wasn't as tight as it might ordinarily be if one or the other was in use.
 
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SparkyChick said:
Same thing as I had to do on a job a couple of weeks ago... spare way but the planks had cut the bush bar too short, so used a short section of 16mm earthing cable wrapped in brown tape to supply my new circuit.

Not sure it's a good idea to use the busbar terminals and the cable terminal at the same time though, I'd be a bit wary of it just in case one of them wasn't as tight as it might ordinarily be if one or the other was in use.
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Would ferrule ends make for a more secure connection in this instance?
 
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SparkyChick said:
Same thing as I had to do on a job a couple of weeks ago... spare way but the planks had cut the bush bar too short, so used a short section of 16mm earthing cable wrapped in brown tape to supply my new circuit.

Not sure it's a good idea to use the busbar terminals and the cable terminal at the same time though, I'd be a bit wary of it just in case one of them wasn't as tight as it might ordinarily be if one or the other was in use.
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I just think it looks awful, there are 3 spare ways on the rcd side so I suspect there’s also an earth fault on that circuit and someone has had to get creative
 
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Would ferrule ends make for a more secure connection in this instance?
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No, I don't think so. The issue I see with it is that using both, the cable may deform over time. The busbar is only clamped well when the cage clamp is tightly closed, so as the cable deforms, both terminations have the potential to become loose. However, the same could be said for a cable in the cage clamp with a bus bar lug.

It's just not an ideal situation.

I did look for a segment of bus bar as I know I've got a few chunks in the back of the van but couldn't find one.
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I just think it looks awful, there are 3 spare ways on the rcd side so I suspect there’s also an earth fault on that circuit and someone has had to get creative
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It does look awful. If I'd had an alternative solution I would have used it, sadly I did. It wasn't until I removed the bus bar cover I found out the spare way had no lug.
 
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SparkyChick said:
Same thing as I had to do on a job a couple of weeks ago... spare way but the planks had cut the bush bar too short, so used a short section of 16mm earthing cable wrapped in brown tape to supply my new circuit.
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Why? Did you not have a short offcut of brown from the circuit you were installing?
 
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Why? Did you not have a short offcut of brown from the circuit you were installing?
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Yes, but given the busbar has no overcurrent protection aside from the suppliers fuse (regardless of whether it's likely to happen), 2.5mm for a 20A supply vs. a segment of 16mm. Whilst I'm not happy with the fact I had to do it, I am happy with my choice of conductor for the job.
 
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Yes, but given the busbar has no overcurrent protection aside from the suppliers fuse (regardless of whether it's likely to happen), 2.5mm for a 20A supply vs. a segment of 16mm. Whilst I'm not happy with the fact I had to do it, I am happy with my choice of conductor for the job.
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But it does have overcurrent protection, the MCB that it is connected to.

It's no different to connecting a switchfuse to a busbar, you wouldn't connect a 63A switchfuse to a busbar with 150mm just because it's rated at 400A.
 
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davesparks said:
But it does have overcurrent protection, the MCB that it is connected to.

It's no different to connecting a switchfuse to a busbar, you wouldn't connect a 63A switchfuse to a busbar with 150mm just because it's rated at 400A.
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I'm not thinking load fault, I'm thinking fault inside the board on the supply side of the MCBs. In that case there is no overcurrent protection aside from the suppliers fuse in most cases. If a fault occurs in the board, I'd rather have something in place that stands a chance of coping with a fault like that. If the cable I chose caught fire, it's probably a board change and a whole world of heart replacing damaged cables. As it is, if the same fault occurs, I'd probably just be replacing that link.

Like I said, this is unlikely to happen, I'm happy with my choice as I think it minimises the potential for a bigger issue in the unlikely event it does.

And as for the situation you've outlined... it's outside my sphere of experience. If I was asked to do something like that, I'd be on here asking for advice from more experienced people and depending on the size of the task at hand, I may be looking to punt some work to someone on the basis I can tag along and learn from the experience.
 
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on a school night, surely you will be reading a story and turning the lights off in half an hour?:princess::princess:
 
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Doing some alterations to a ring as part of a refit.

In the center of the room was trailing socket that had been fitted to a pedestal desk, just lying on the floor, to be dealt with later.

Anyway opened up the ring on a wall socket, being a good boy and testing before butchering, and did some end to ends r1 and rN fine r2 was like a roller coaster up and down from open circuit to 2.0 Ohms.

Checked the leads, checked the crocs, looked at the CPCs, all ?

It was almost as if me moving was affecting the reading, hang on..

Under my foot was the T&E of the trailing socket..

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Who'd ha thunk it?
 
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