EICR codes

[SSE]

Thoughts on the following; no main bond to gas mains (C1), spur spurred of a spur on a ring (C2) & numerous inaccessible sockets for kitchen appliances under worktop with no switched spurs above worktop for isolating sockets (C3). Been a while since I've done an EICR! Thanks in advance.

 

[westward10]

Is this a Report someone else has done or opinions for a Report of your own. I would C2 the first two and probably wouldn't comment on the sockets.

 

[Jamchiv01]

Code C1 ‘Danger present’. Risk of injury. Immediate remedial action required.
Code C2 ‘Potentially dangerous’. Urgent remedial action required
Code C3 ‘Improvement recommended’

Source: http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/mediafile/100126678/best-Practice-Guide-4.pdf

I think your main bonding to gas is a little drastic as there is no danger present, only potentially dangerous?

 

[Andy78]

Thoughts on the following; no main bond to gas mains (C1), spur spurred of a spur on a ring (C2) & numerous inaccessible sockets for kitchen appliances under worktop with no switched spurs above worktop for isolating sockets (C3). Been a while since I've done an EICR! Thanks in advance.

No gas bond would be a C2, it's not immediately dangerous. I agree with the spur from a spur, but the last one I would probably not code as I can't think of a reg to justify it really.

 

[HandySparks]

Thoughts on the following; no main bond to gas mains (C1), spur spurred of a spur on a ring (C2) & numerous inaccessible sockets for kitchen appliances under worktop with no switched spurs above worktop for isolating sockets (C3). Been a while since I've done an EICR! Thanks in advance.

Gas bond, C2.
Unfused spur with 2 outlets, maybe a C2 at most, depending on likely loads dependent on their location.
Appliance sockets, no code.

 

[Andy78]

Been a while since I've done an EICR!

Best practice guide 4 is a useful site guide with examples of common issues with codings.

Best Practice Guides - http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/electrical-professionals/best-practice-guides/

 

[westward10]

Hey what's going on we are all Code agreeing.

 

[Octopus]

Nah... C1 the lot. Need some work to do. Lol

 

[richy3333]

The last item is a non compliance with the Scottish Building Stadards. Don't know about your Part P thingy. I'd just mention it in the accompanying correspondence to customer as it's outwith the EICR

 

[SSE]

Thanks very much for your replies chaps. Completely forgot to look back on this thread, the job was put on hold until next week so I forgot to log back on here.

 

[Oliver Townsend]

Code 1 - according to our niceic area supervisor there are only 3 situations 1 - live exposed conductors 2- incorrect polarity 3 - there was one other cant remember any ideas

 

[Octopus]

Code 1 - according to our niceic area supervisor there are only 3 situations 1 - live exposed conductors 2- incorrect polarity 3 - there was one other cant remember any ideas

But lack of gas bonding is NOT a live conductor ..... so its the NICEIC making up daft rules again....

 

[Oliver Townsend]

But lack of gas bonding is NOT a live conductor ..... so its the NICEIC making up daft rules again....

 

[Oliver Townsend]

no sorry for confusion i didnt mean that the bonding was a code 1 obviously that is only a code 2 , i was just commenting that there are only 3 situations where you use code 1

 

[westward10]

Code 1 - according to our niceic area supervisor there are only 3 situations 1 - live exposed conductors 2- incorrect polarity 3 - there was one other cant remember any ideas

Coding is personal opinion, whilst some situations will warrant a specific Coding in most people's eyes it is not for the NICEIC to band about what should be this, that or the other because situations can be variable.

 

[Octopus]

no sorry for confusion i didnt mean that the bonding was a code 1 obviously that is only a code 2 , i was just commenting that there are only 3 situations where you use code 1

Nice - fully understand.

Shame the cowboy sparks aren't so diligent..

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Then again, NICEIC registered electricians should follow the NICEIC guidelines.

 

[Oliver Townsend]

Coding is personal opinion, whilst some situations will warrant a specific Coding in most people's eyes it is not for the NICEIC to band about what should be this, that or the other because situations can be variable.

i would agree with code 2 and 3 but not with code 1 he is correct in what he is saying i just wish i could remember the third ...

 

[Flanders]

i would agree with code 2 and 3 but not with code 1 he is correct in what he is saying i just wish i could remember the third ...

Finding a connection burning would get a code 1 , But then i wou,d make it safe at the time of the inspection as i would with any code 1, so now i have made it safe is it a code 1 any more ???

 

[Oliver Townsend]

Finding a connection burning would get a code 1 , But then i wou,d make it safe at the time of the inspection as i would with any code 1, so now i have made it safe is it a code 1 any more ???

yes you are obligated to rectify and code 1 on site which then will not stay as code 1 but i would put on report code 1 rectified in order to be able to charge additional .

 

[Octopus]

yes you are obligated to rectify and code 1 on site which then will not stay as code 1 but i would put on report code 1 rectified in order to be able to charge additional .

Hum.... its not always possible, so common sense needs to be applied.

 

[westward10]

i would agree with code 2 and 3 but not with code 1 he is correct in what he is saying i just wish i could remember the third ...

The NICEIC bod says there are only three situations which require Code 1 entries, do you not think this is a narrow and arrogant opinion.

 

[Oliver Townsend]

The NICEIC bod says there are only three situations which require Code 1 entries, do you not think this is a narrow and arrogant opinion.

your getting run away with the word situations , maybe categories would be better but hearing all three i couldn't disagree and you obviously have a problem with the niceic - did they not pass you ?

 

[Oliver Townsend]

The NICEIC bod says there are only three situations which require Code 1 entries, do you not think this is a narrow and arrogant opinion.

your getting run away with the word situations , maybe categories would be better but hearing all three i couldn't disagree and you obviously have a problem with the niceic - did they not pass you ?

 

[Oliver Townsend]

The NICEIC bod says there are only three situations which require Code 1 entries, do you not think this is a narrow and arrogant opinion.

your getting run away with the word situations , maybe categories would be better but hearing all three i couldn't disagree and you obviously have a problem with the niceic - did they not pass you ?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Not sure it was good enough to say it twice, let alone three times?

 

[Oliver Townsend]

Not sure it was good enough to say it twice, let alone three times?

computer glitch sorry

 

[westward10]

Not passed me for what, I have chewed the cud with these people for years in supervisory roles whether NICEIC, ECA or whoever and to be honest I like a debate with them but do they alter my views, no. Do they give me black marks, no.