Simple question on running cable along a wall?

[Silly Sausage]

Guys, the OP has wired a few test circuits at College and has no experience of tools or even a basic grasp of installation. I really don't think we should be encouraging him to do any work himself unsupervised as I'm sure many people will be very upset if he hurts or even kills himself...

I think he's got off quite lightly, hasn't suffered the usual vitriol that gets slung at newbies.
We don't want him to do a hatchet install.

 

[Spark2be]

Thanks for all your replies and a few of you are right I am not completely sure what I am doing thats why I am asking questions. As to wiring a spurred socket from a ring main I believe I am cabable of doing that along with the appropriate testing (before and after). What I am not sure of is the building side of things and I can only learn that by actually doing it.

I would not mind just clipped cable as the socket and cable would be out of site.

 

[Guitarist]

Thanks for all your replies and a few of you are right I am not completely sure what I am doing thats why I am asking questions. As to wiring a spurred socket from a ring main I believe I am cabable of doing that along with the appropriate testing (before and after). What I am not sure of is the building side of things and I can only learn that by actually doing it.

I would not mind just clipped cable as the socket and cable would be out of site.

I admire that you are asking questions. What you should really be doing though, is working supervised during your apprenticeship while you learn these basic skills. I am only saying this as I am a caring electrician...

 

[trev]

Ok mate, what testing are you going to do before and after?
And, a 5M surface clipped cable is going to be all out of sight? It's a long run.

 

[Octopus]

Is it too late to add bonding and RCD protection to the OP's deliberations?

I like the notching idea, plumbers make huge notches so whay can't we??

 

[Guitarist]

Is it too late to add bonding and RCD protection to the OP's deliberations?

I like the notching idea, plumbers make huge notches so whay can't we??

Don't the building regs limit the amount of timber removed for plumbers to 80% of joist depth? :wink5:

 

[Spark2be]

Thanks for caring Guitarist, however, I am assuming that this site is not only for qualified electricians to answer questions that qualified electricians do not know?

I know that chasing the wall would be better, I was just hoping for a straight forward "yes you can clip into plastered walls if you use these.......clips" lol

 

[Plonker 3]

"yes you can clip into plastered walls if you use these.......clips" lol

Go to you local wholesaler ask for what size cable you need and then for clips to suit. Cable clips are only available in one type, how ever should you struggle to clip the cable then you may need to re-evaluate what you need to run the cable correctly.

 

[Des 56]

Thanks for caring Guitarist, however, I am assuming that this site is not only for qualified electricians to answer questions that qualified electricians do not know?

I know that chasing the wall would be better, I was just hoping for a straight forward "yes you can clip into plastered walls if you use these.......clips" lol

yes you can using these clips 2.5mm Flat Twin & Earth Cable Clips (100 per pack)| MeteorElectrical.com


Silly me,I think I have given the secret away

 

[Knobhead]

Have you tried looking for cable clips on Google? No, I didn't think so.

Or go to B&Q one of their experts will sell you something.

 

[Spark2be]

Dead test
Continuity / polarity
Insulation resistance
Zs
PFC
RCD

 

[Adam W]

I know that chasing the wall would be better, I was just hoping for a straight forward "yes you can clip into plastered walls if you use these.......clips" lol

You can if you want, but it'll look really amateurish, which is why a professional wouldn't do it that way.

 

[Guitarist]

Have you tried looking for cable clips on Google? No, I didn't think so.

Or go to B&Q one of their experts will sell you something.

The experts can even tell you how to rewire your house, no testing or notification required....

 

[Spark2be]

Yes I got 2.5mm twin and earth clipping from B & Q tried putting one in the wall and it just broke straight out leaving a little hole.

You thought wrong mate.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I'll do it for him. No Part P, no free money to the council, electrically perfect, as long as he does the plastering. And he'll learn from a craftsman!

 

[Adam W]

Yes I got 2.5mm twin and earth clipping from B & Q tried putting one in the wall and it just broke straight out leaving a little hole.

You thought wrong mate.

You could chase the cables into the plaster instead, then the plaster wouldn't chip because it would be over the top of the cables.
Or if you really want it to look amateurish you could clip the cable to the top of the skirting board, or use screws and plugs instead of the nails you get with the clips.
Or use self adhesive cable tie bases and cable ties.

 

[Spark2be]

Thank you Adam W, very helpful post. It looks like Im going to get some practice chasing.

 

[Spark2be]

Mate I have not meant to offend you by asking for advice on clips. If I had chance at an apprentiship I would go for it, I don't so I have to learn best I can.

 

[Richard Burns]

Yes I got 2.5mm twin and earth clipping from B & Q tried putting one in the wall and it just broke straight out leaving a little hole.

You thought wrong mate.

If you really want to just clip the cable to the wall then if you use pin plugs (available from big B&Q stores),
drill a hole in the plaster and use these plugs they should hold the cable clips well without breaking any more plaster, so long as you have enough depth available. Using cable clips direct in plaster does not work well.

 

[Spark2be]

As I have discovered. That's sounds like it would fit the bill.

Don't you have to enclose the wires in trunking even if you are burying it in the wall?