In days gone by after passing the G&G FTC 57 in Electrical Installations which took 5 years part time, one could obtain an electricians certificate from C&G, which I have.
 
I have scoured the internet to see if I can find a 'legal' definition of an electrician. I cannot!

I have found this:

What Is A "Qualified Electrician"? | My Local Electrician

which distinguishes between a qualified and non-qualified electrician but a 'non-qualified' electrician still has 'electrician' in the title.

Normal dictionaries cannot be used as they do not go into any detail. The collins dictionary simply states an electrician as:

a person whose occupation is the installation, maintenance, and repair of electrical devices

The Oxford English Dictionary states an electrician is:

a person who installs and maintains electrical equipment

There are a lot of views about who can call themselves an electrician, generally someone who has served an apprenticeship and has the right NVQ's but is there a legal definition?
Someone who has the following attributes:
Educated to a certain standard
Can read and write, and use spellcheck on the PC
Good looking
Good with Maths
Has a thick skin
Good People skills
Plenty of cash (to pay the scams every year)
Can put up with idiots
Good hand eye coordination
Be Ruthless with customers
and finally be an all round nice guy like me
 
Someone who has the following attributes:
Educated to a certain standard
Can read and write, and use spellcheck on the PC
Good looking
Good with Maths
Has a thick skin
Good People skills
Plenty of cash (to pay the scams every year)
Can put up with idiots
Good hand eye coordination
Be Ruthless with customers
and finally be an all round nice guy like me
Now that is funny Pete :)
 
Blimey.. I've just noticed I put this one up 4 years ago! Scary!
 
I have scoured the internet to see if I can find a 'legal' definition of an electrician. I cannot!

I have found this:

What Is A "Qualified Electrician"? | My Local Electrician

which distinguishes between a qualified and non-qualified electrician but a 'non-qualified' electrician still has 'electrician' in the title.

Normal dictionaries cannot be used as they do not go into any detail. The collins dictionary simply states an electrician as:

a person whose occupation is the installation, maintenance, and repair of electrical devices

The Oxford English Dictionary states an electrician is:

a person who installs and maintains electrical equipment

There are a lot of views about who can call themselves an electrician, generally someone who has served an apprenticeship and has the right NVQ's but is there a legal definition?
An Electrician is just someone who does electrical work for pay.
 
Or if they are working in a domestic arena. they must be DIs then, hence no qualifications or experience needed just buy some tools stick electrician on the side of a van and off you go, I know it happens but it doesn't make them electricians.
PS I don't like the disagree button, far to confrontational for my liking, as is the dumb one as well, and explanation of your reasons is a far better answer imo.
 
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We really are dredging up the favourites:rolleyes:

Anyone can call themselves whatever they like,electrician is as good as any title...crikey,if you can gender re-assign and identify as a pumpkin,what does a van sticker prove?

I saw a bus,with "Kelloggs" on the side of it...but it wasn't full of cornflakes.

The lad up the road,has a young daughter,who wears a top,exclaiming "Daddy's Little Angel". I asked if he had a good Christmas,and he said she hated all her presents,and spent two weeks whining to go to McD's every 3 hours...the word "Angel" was not mentioned:)

...Move on,lads,this donkey won't go faster,for whippin'
 
The definition Competent was removed in the 17th Edition Amd 3 and replaced with Skilled Person (electrically) .

Definition : Person who possesses, as appropriate to the nature of the electrical work to be undertaken, adequate education, training and practical skills, and who is able to perceive risks and avoid hazards which Electricity can create.
 
Yes a simple answer is indeed a bit vague as it covers a whole depth and spectrum of different engineering talents. I would suggest that probably the lmost important is experience with a modicum of intelligence.

Now when you consider this:
Human Beings Law and Legal Definition. ... Human beings are characterized by the ability to speak. They have a high capacity for abstract thinking and are commonly thought to possess a spirit or soul which transcends the physical body.

Now that is certainly vague as I have worked with some who do not fit that definition..............
 
Legally in some jurisdictions IIRC - To use the title engineer, you are required to have a bachelor of engineering degree at a minimum and frequently other requirements on the top.
In the states, that's the way. And as a result engineers are held in similar esteem to other professionals. In the UK, everyone is an engineer. Give a bloke a bucket and tell him to empty porta-loos and before you know it he'll be claiming he's a sanitation engineer :)
 
I have scoured the internet to see if I can find a 'legal' definition of an electrician. I cannot!

I have found this:

What Is A "Qualified Electrician"? | My Local Electrician

which distinguishes between a qualified and non-qualified electrician but a 'non-qualified' electrician still has 'electrician' in the title.

Normal dictionaries cannot be used as they do not go into any detail. The collins dictionary simply states an electrician as:

a person whose occupation is the installation, maintenance, and repair of electrical devices

The Oxford English Dictionary states an electrician is:

a person who installs and maintains electrical equipment

There are a lot of views about who can call themselves an electrician, generally someone who has served an apprenticeship and has the right NVQ's but is there a legal definition?
Someone who works with Electricity
 
I have scoured the internet to see if I can find a 'legal' definition of an electrician. I cannot!

I have found this:

What Is A "Qualified Electrician"? | My Local Electrician

which distinguishes between a qualified and non-qualified electrician but a 'non-qualified' electrician still has 'electrician' in the title.

Normal dictionaries cannot be used as they do not go into any detail. The collins dictionary simply states an electrician as:

a person whose occupation is the installation, maintenance, and repair of electrical devices

The Oxford English Dictionary states an electrician is:

a person who installs and maintains electrical equipment

There are a lot of views about who can call themselves an electrician, generally someone who has served an apprenticeship and has the right NVQ's but is there a legal definition?
Someone who works with Electricity
 
This is a bad subject in my opinion, I have done an advanced electrical engineering apprenticeship. City and guilds 2360.2391.2400, cert c. Then an hnd in electrical engineering, then some one who has been on a fast track (boil in a bag) course gets the same title... With an NVQ....
 
This is a bad subject in my opinion, I have done an advanced electrical engineering apprenticeship. City and guilds 2360.2391.2400, cert c. Then an hnd in electrical engineering, then some one who has been on a fast track (boil in a bag) course gets the same title... With an NVQ....
Just take and pass the 18th Edition BS 7671 update, and of course the Part P exam, pay the scams an inordinate fee, job done, Electrician off you go.
 
What is a Part P exam?
You tell me Ant, lots of folk are saying they are Part P qualified, so the assumption is that to become qualified, you need to pass some sort of Exam/Test, ergo The Part P qualification look at some of the profiles "16th 17th or 16th C&Gs and Part P when we are asked to state our Qualifications, it will be C and G number" I'm sure someone will be able to answer.
I for one don't know, when I became qualified I did a 5 years apprenticeship and 3 or 4 C and G courses, the same as you did, so you should be able to tell me because you are younger and more in tune with todays Quals.
Now see what you have made me do, get all riled up, blood pressure through the roof, now where is me Vino, need to calm down and destress. What is the Part P exam? I would give you a dumb, but seeing as you are My Mate I wont OK.
 
trouble these short courses are selling it as a qualification along with the DI course., when all candidates need is to read and understand it.
 
trouble these short courses are selling it as a qualification along with the DI course., when all candidates need is to read and understand it.
So Ant, there you go, your question has bee partly answered by someone better informed than me. Quite why these Scams peddle this carp is beyond me, oh no not really to extort money from unsuspecting individuals trying to better themselves, needs stamping on from a great height, not going to happen though, is it? to many sticky fingers in the proverbial pies, in my humble opinion.
 
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it's a test by the local fire brigade. if you can pee 30ft, and 10ft high, you can be a fireman.
I remember around 5 years ago (back in the old days) Tel answered one of my questions........... sensibly! :D
 
Crikey when was that? got a link, HHD?
I think I still had to ask him the same question 4 or 5 times though before we broke through the humour and got to an answer. :D
 
trouble these short courses are selling it as a qualification along with the DI course., when all candidates need is to read and understand it.
Eh? It's like a foreign language when you're sensible. I keep re-reading the post thinking I must have missed the gag!
 
Sorry Tel, picking on you a bit today :sunflower:
 
Why is Pete saying everything twice it must be the mention of Part P that he brought into the conversation.
now wonder he is the top poster of the month every post is a double whammy.
 

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