Why do commercial sparks bash house bashers?

[Electrics]

I've just started an apprenticeship with a decent sized firm (I got taken on full time - hooray!) and was thinking this week about how a lot of people, mostly online, turn their nose up at people who do domestic work.

I was wondering why, since at my work everybody seems to do the bare minimum but with most decent domestic sparks i know, they tend to go the extra mile.

Is there a difference in quality of workmanship simply because people want to do a better job for their own customers as opposed to commercial sparks who are simply getting the job done and aren't personally responsible for the final job?

Just seems to be a lot more 'just get it done' mentality on the commercial side.

Another thing i noticed is hardly anyone has the correct tools for the job and the tools they do have are mashed up.

So people will be using blunt cutters where the tip of one side has shattered off, or drivers with half the shaft insulation hanging off. Then there are other things which not bad but just 'doing it the hard way' like cutting PVC conduit with a hack saw having 3m of it flapping about instead of just buying a £10 pipe cutter, or using hammer and chisel/pad saw to cut out for back boxes where the wall is double skinned chipboard/plasterboard because nobody has a multi tool. Putting up conduit? Simply measure out from some maybe straight maybe wonky reference point and use your 6 inch torpedo level to get it right, instead of simply using a proper spirit level, making the job ten times easier.

When in the domestic setting it seems most people have the basic tools that make life easier.

Is it simply a case of 'not my job, don't care that much' on site compared with running private jobs directly in people's homes?

 

[Electrics]

The only thing that can be dodgy with cash payments is not paying the proper tax.

Being a cowboy is ripping people off: doing a shoddy job, invoicing for work that either hasn’t been done or wasn’t needed.

I don’t ask for cash, I ask to be paid. How the customer does that is up to them. I give an invoice, receipt and even cash is paid into my works bank account.
I’m sure @CamoElectric is the same.

The salient point is i'm traceable when i do work. They know my full name, number, home address. If you pay some scally in cash when he's gotten out of a wrecked, non sign written van and used some burner number...well that's different to someone who is entirely traceable. In that instance method of payment gives no added protection at all.

Just the notion that working for cash makes you somehow untrustworthy is bunk.

 

[ipf]

Nope, i've been a builder for 18 years (i might be new to electric but i'm seasoned when it comes to the trades) and payment method has absolutely nothing to do with work quality. You're essentially saying if you take cash you're a cowboy which is nonsense.

CASH JOBS.
Done legally OK ........but if not, be it cash up front or not, it can be cut throat....and who knows about certification.
Some are stupid but I don't like innocent folk getting fleeced.....and that includes our trade.

No problem with them at all, if everything is above board. I do them, and always have.

50 years in the trade and there are shysters of all forms, even more these days with the internet.
I'm just saying cash payments make it easier for the unscrupulous..................
regardless of the fair trader.

 

[ipf]

Nope, i've been a builder for 18 years (i might be new to electric but i'm seasoned when it comes to the trades) and payment method has absolutely nothing to do with work quality. You're essentially saying if you take cash you're a cowboy which is nonsense.

I most certainly am not.
Please.
Read and understand what I said.

 

[Petej999]

Whats this Commercial sparks carp? you are an electrician whatever system you move into, Domestic, Commercial or industrial, what next? houdse bashers, office basher and factory bashers, no wonder this trade has gone to Rat poo.

 

[ipf]

The salient point is i'm traceable when i do work. They know my full name, number, home address. If you pay some scally in cash when he's gotten out of a wrecked, non sign written van and used some burner number...well that's different to someone who is entirely traceable. In that instance method of payment gives no added protection at all.

Just the notion that working for cash makes you somehow untrustworthy is bunk.

It is, for sure.
What's you're problem?
Can you not understand the points I am making?

In you're case it's salient.....BUT NOT IN EVERY CASE.
Not all people are 21st century savvy, for instance, especially the elderly, who are most at risk.
Then again, I suppose, not all are 20th savvy.

 

[telectrix]

It is, for sure.
What's you're problem?
Can you not understand the points I am making?

In you're case it's salient.....BUT NOT IN EVERY CASE.
Not all people are 21st century savvy, for instance, especially the elderly, who are most at risk.
Then again, I suppose, not all are 20th savvy.

20th???? thought we just got the 18th. ?

 

[ipf]

20th???? thought we just got the 18th. ?

Don’t start bringing golf into it…..you’ll get the yanks hollering at golf balls and chanting.