working as an electrician when not qualified?

[Mike Blair]

Im 19 and have my level 2,3 2365 and 17th edition and had around 1.5 years work experience as an electricians mate. I have been trying to find work as an electricians mate but no luck because i can not drive. But i have been offered small electrical work i know how to do. but i have always been a bit weird about working with my current qualifications on my own as i am only qualified as an electricians mate from what my college told me. until i get my 2394,5 i can not get with napit etc etc. What should i do i need the money and no one will take me on because i can not drive. small jobs would help me out big time right now in time for driving lessons etc but is it ilegal / wrong working with my current qualifications? i only do jobs i know how to do ,comfortable with

 

[davesparks]

Christ! I wouldn't like you as a mentor! Bad day at the office?

Really? You've never even met me, everyone who has had me as a mentor has been happy with the situation and keen to work with me again!

I actually had a very good day today, thanks for asking.

 

[Knobhead]

OK I’ll ask the question.

Mike, do you have PL & PI insurance? If you don’t and something goes wrong…………

 

[7029 dave]

...Not as mad as you would think...

I did my first full kitchen rewire,at a friends parents house,having been dropped off and picked up by my dad,three evenings,and a weekend...

My excuse for that?.......I was fifteen years old :icon12:

I was 15,when started as Saturday boy, and school holidays.

 

[telectrix]

PL being the most important. it's not like he's going out on a limb doing EICRs.

 

[cotty]

Mike, carry on with what you feel confident with. I'm sure after completing your 2365 level 2 & 3 you are more than capable of minor works etc!

 

[Knobhead]

Mike, carry on with what you feel confident with. I'm sure after completing your 2365 level 2 & 3 you are more than capable of minor works etc!

Stupidity personified!

 

[bigash]

Having read the full thread I can see why some trainees think sod this. So much for encouragement.

Not everything in life is learnt on an apprenticeship.

I am doing my qualifications through agency work as a sparks mate and college release days. No I'm not on an Apprenticeship but I'm learning the same syllabus as others, does it make me any less qualified?

I will be getting a very wide variety of work, I have worked on domestics, commercials and industrials as well as schools and colleges. You could say my work will be more varied than an apprentices who has to work to what their company does. But certainly does not make me any less qualified than them.

My point here is people assume a lot And say a lot of things which usually appears to discourage people.

If you disagree with something why not say you disagree and state your reasons instead of you have not done an apprenticeship.

Right rant over.

 

[cotty]

Stupidity personified!

A touch harsh! Please explain why a trainee who's qualified to level 3 2365 cannot do minor works?

 

[TJ Anderson]

Mike, carry on with what you feel confident with. I'm sure after completing your 2365 level 2 & 3 you are more than capable of minor works etc!

Agree entirely. If he can't do some straight forward lighting alterations by now I would be quite amazed to be fair.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Having read the full thread I can see why some trainees think sod this. So much for encouragement.

Not everything in life is learnt on an apprenticeship.

I am doing my qualifications through agency work as a sparks mate and college release days. No I'm not on an Apprenticeship but I'm learning the same syllabus as others, does it make me any less qualified?

I will be getting a very wide variety of work, I have worked on domestics, commercials and industrials as well as schools and colleges. You could say my work will be more varied than an apprentices who has to work to what their company does. But certainly does not make me any less qualified than them.

My point here is people assume a lot And say a lot of things which usually appears to discourage people.

If you disagree with something why not say you disagree and state your reasons instead of you have not done an apprenticeship.

Right rant over.

Good for you mate. I think it is tough for the new ones these days with much less genuine opportunities that the old school were afforded.

 

[Knobhead]

Not harsh at all, do you know for certain Mike has insurance?

You’ve told him to crack on regardless without knowing the facts. That is stupidity personified.

 

[cotty]

Not harsh at all, do you know for certain Mike has insurance?

You’ve told him to crack on regardless without knowing the facts. That is stupidity personified.

So for all the electricians that have done favours for family, friends etc, without insurance or scheme membership, you'll class us all as "stupid." Wake up! Lol

 

[Mike Blair]

i completed my level 1 2330 and they explained about how you have to do an nvq. so level 2 comes along and they transfair us all to the 2365 and we where the first class to go onto this course so the teachers did not really know much about it. i found a guy who was willing to take me on so for around 3 month i was in college monday tuesday and wenesday-friday working getting experiance etc.. so then he wanted to take me on as an apprentice but the college did not know how to get around it. so by the time i finished level 2 2365 they then said..you have to do the 2357 level 2-3....but the courses are the same just one has an nvq and an extra unit but then another teacher told me no dont do that.. complete you level 3 and do a bridging unit so i continue working for the guy and the teachers started getting angry at me because i was asking about the nvq and other teachers had different thoughts which left me and the guy i was working with confused at the time as i finished college "2330 level 1 , 2365 level 2,3 "3 years in college" my teachers then told the class we have to spend another 3 years doing the 2357. the teachers kept getting angry at me asking questions etc so i just left it as that have not been back since. but as i finished college work slowly dried up with the guy i was working with so i was looking for work ever since. did small od jobs with him but thats about it

i recently found out the only way for me to do an nvq is the 2357 and do the units i have not completed "i believe there's 2 units" and then do the nvq and am2 but just need someone to work with to doo my nvq

i have been trying so hard to become an electrician out of everyone else in my college course i am the only one continuing to become an electrician because they all give up and now work in a warehouse or tescos or something like that. its hard when you dont have an income and trying to get a van,car,insurances atm im looking into a goverment lone to start off because atm that looks like the only option

 

[Mike Blair]

sorry for the story above but the situation im in is annoying and im trying everything i can to become an electrician

 

[Knobhead]

So for all the electricians that have done favours for family, friends etc, without insurance or scheme membership, you'll class us all as "stupid." Wake up! Lol 

I’m awake you obviously aren’t, point out the post that says this is for family or a friend. If this guy takes on paid work without insurance it’s his look out.

He can’t afford driving lessons never mind rebuilding a house when he’s made a mistake.

Stop acting like a fool, step back and look at the facts and consider the possible consequences.