Broken core 2 way switch

[rossfenwick]

Afternoon,

I've just been to a new build finishing off some lighting and found a fault in the 3c&e between the landing and hallway. No continuity on 1 core.

It's going to cause a lot of damage to replace the cable. The other 2 cores & CPC are good, IR tests fine.

Is there anything out there wireless, everything I have seen looks to still need the 3 cores between switches.

Suggestions welcome!!

 

[buzzlightyear]

if so, than the cable to the hallway to of the stairs needs replacing.
then is down to plasters to repair the damage .

 

[Pete999]

if so, than the cable to the hallway to of the stairs needs replacing.
then is down to plasters to repair the damage .

How do you know it was the plasterer's fault in the first place, Buzz highly likely but is there, be any proof.

 

[buzzlightyear]

what the betting pete. no capping on the cable .plasters nicked with the blade.

 

[Pete999]

what the betting pete. no capping on the cable .plasters nicked with the blade.

Like I said probably right.

 

[Ian1981]

If it's new build there is no plaster , they board the walls and tape the joints then sand down.
No plastering involved

 

[Pete999]

Afternoon,

I've just been to a new build finishing off some lighting and found a fault in the 3c&e between the landing and hallway. No continuity on 1 core.

It's going to cause a lot of damage to replace the cable. The other 2 cores & CPC are good, IR tests fine.

Is there anything out there wireless, everything I have seen looks to still need the 3 cores between switches.

Suggestions welcome!!

How old is the property? is it still under warranty?

 

[Ian1981]

How old is the property? is it still under warranty?

He said new build didn't he?

 

[buzzlightyear]

If it's new build there is no plaster , they board the walls and tape the joints then sand down.
No plastering involved

yeah right .who that bob the builder.

 

[Pete999]

He said new build didn't he?

Yes, so? all I asked was how old, and is it still under warranty fair question I think and why so fractious with your post?

 

[Ian1981]

Yes, so? all I asked was how old, and is it still under warranty fair question I think and why so fractious with your post?

Not being fractious, I thought you missed the new build part of the post the op posted.
Chill out yeah?

 

[Ian1981]

yeah right .who that bob the builder.

I work on them from time to time buzz, the major house builders.
Not a plasterer in sight

 

[buzzlightyear]

Not being fractious, I thought you missed the new build part of the post the op posted.
Chill out yeah?

it ok boys ,it crunchie Friday!

 

[Ian1981]

it ok boys ,it crunchy Friday!

I got my Liam Gallagher tickets so all is good

 

[Pete999]

it ok boys ,it crunchy Friday!

No mate it's bad news Friday as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Ian1981]

No mate it's bad news Friday as far as I'm concerned.

You ok pete?

 

[buzzlightyear]

I got my Liam Gallagher tickets so all is good

will he be singing when you go a see him .or is he going to walk of the stage after 5mins and telling the fans to f**K off you paid you monies.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I got my Liam Gallagher tickets so all is good

will he be singing when you go a see him .or is he going to walk of the stage after 5mins and telling the fans to f**K off you paid you monies.

 

[Pete999]

You ok pete?

Yes Ian Thanks, calming down a bit now.

 

[Midwest]

Scolmore do a wireless switch (https://www.scolmore.com/_pdfs/click-smart.pdf). Least I've seen them every time I walk in & out of my wholesaler. I'm sure there's others. Personally I think the fault should be rectified, being a new property and all that.

 

[Pete999]

Scolmore do a wireless switch (https://www.scolmore.com/_pdfs/click-smart.pdf). Least I've seen them every time I walk in & out of my wholesaler. I'm sure there's others. Personally I think the fault should be rectified, being a new property and all that.

It's under warranty then get it sorted properly, no good throwing half arsed repairs to solve the problem, it need doing properly and paid for by the NHBC or whatever they're called these days.

 

[Ian1981]

will he be singing when you go a see him .or is he going to walk of the stage after 5mins and telling the fans to f**K off you paid you monies.

That's the gamble you take mate haha

 

[Pete999]

That's the gamble you take mate haha

Those Gallagher Brothers both of em, are another Pet Hate of mine, wrong thread I know, but as I'm in the mood for peeing people who don't deserve it, might as well add that to my messed up Friday rant, and it was all going so well.

 

[Midwest]

It's under warranty then get it sorted properly, no good throwing half arsed repairs to solve the problem, it need doing properly and paid for by the NHBC or whatever they're called these days.

Sounds as if the property hasn't even started it's warranty period yet, i.e. not been handed over to a customer. The fault should be found or cable replaced. You might have a nail or screw in the cable?

 

[rossfenwick]

Thanks Midwest It would be a bit bodge I suppose.

It is a new build timber frame. It has a 50mm service void on the external walls where the cable drops at ground floor, then along a flat roof joist up the wall at first floor to the loft across the landing and down to the switch. I'm a bit ocd about being clear of the tackers screws, maybe there using 4 inch drywall.s

Looks like the hole saws are coming out Monday, better get some filler!

 

[Andy-1960]

Have a look at the MK echo range. It's a wireless solution that does not require batteries in the switches ( they are self powered) and may be a cheaper option than replastering!
https://www.mkelectric.com/Documents/English/EN MK Range Brochures/Echo Brochure.pdf

 

[Midwest]

Have a look at the MK echo range. It's a wireless solution that does not require batteries in the switches ( they are self powered) and may be a cheaper option than replastering!
https://www.mkelectric.com/Documents/English/EN MK Range Brochures/Echo Brochure.pdf

Think the consensus is the fault should be located & rectified, it being a new build. Just saying.

 

[electric al]

Think someone has an irrational grudge against plasterers - had them found guilty and sentenced before evidence had been put forward

 

[telectrix]

who givesa sh8t who's fault it was my 110V makits recip saw ( a padsaw on steroids) can find the fault within a minute. ( might create a few more as well).

 

[Andy-1960]

Think the consensus is the fault should be located & rectified, it being a new build. Just saying.

I agree, but the OP did ask if there was any wireless option.

 

[Toneyz]

Think the consensus is the fault should be located & rectified, it being a new build. Just saying.

Got to agree wireless is just a easy way out .

 

[Toneyz]

Which core is it ? ,the favourite that I used to encounter was skirting board nail below the landing light switch (yes in zone) does this cable have a fault to earth ?.

 

[jackhammerJIM]

is it wired as a standard 2 way or 1 way to 2 way conversion ?

 

[rossfenwick]

It's Brown.

No IR' s on cpc black and gray are good.

Opting for the telectrix recipe method. Hopefully less than 4 holes!!

 

[rossfenwick]

is it wired as a standard 2 way or 1 way to 2 way conversion ?

Hi Jackhamer, not sure what you mean by conversion.

Its a 3c&e from first floor sw to ground floor sw. The 2c&e L & Sw L are from the ceiling rose to first floor sw.

 

[jackhammerJIM]

that is wired 1 way to 2 way conversion method . would it be easier to convert it to standard 2 way ?

 

[ED17]

Think someone has an irrational grudge against plasterers - had them found guilty and sentenced before evidence had been put forward

True, might have been a plumber!

 

[electric al]

Maybe his missus asked a plasterer round to fill a hole in the bedroom whilst he was out tampering with a length of conduit or something

 

[Leesparkykent]

Is the switch fed?

 

[Midwest]

I agree, but the OP did ask if there was any wireless option.

You need to read previous posts aka # 20.