Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

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Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

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I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. :omg_smile:

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At a friend's party last night, but seeing an extension lead plugged in to an extension lead, plugged in to a multi-way adaptor in the hall for the garden use and not and RCD in sight made me wince. Had a quick look as she was telling me of other electrical woes and its not pretty, though far from the worst to appear here. Sadly whoever did the last wiring could not be bothered to remove the old heating fuse box, not event to remove or cut the tails off!

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The top butchers of the box is impressive, more care and effort than a hammer hole, but still such a mess. Of course why put in a blank when there is a live busbar within finger reach?

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The supply is in pyro and I hope the red sleeve is just for identification as it looks af if the copper is exposed off the pot, but maybe there is black sleeving below? I decided not to poke it just to find out.

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Its not a great installation and at some point I should try and help out. Blanking the spare and maybe RCBOs replacing the Proteus MCBs is an option to avoid the hassle of trying to redo the tails the correct (non seal faerie way) but I don't know if current Proteus RCBOs are compatible, and for all the cost a new metal CU of a brand I prefer might be less trouble in the long run.
 
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Dustydazzler said:
Price to Rip that entire monstrosity out and start from scratch all new , or don't touch it at all
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If this was commercial then 100% what you say.

As a friend I would be happy to donate my support but it probably comes to the same thing - the cost of a new CU is less than the time wasted trying to make something less crap out of what is there. The other thing slightly troubling me is this is a 40-60s build I guess, and it has asbestos panels in places, so I am not going to make changes that mean new holes being drilled. Thankfully there is plenty of 19mm (I think) plywood there to fix stuff to.

I also dread to think what else will need attended to. There is an unmarked 16A MCB which needs to be identified, also there appears to be two RFC for a two bedroom flat, so possibly one is for the kitchen. But it has damn-all sockets and so she has an extension lead to plug in dishwasher and washing machine in to a single socket under the sink. Yes, more WFT? and another burned out aspect to properly fix.

The other oddity is two 16A socket circuits for the attic conversion. It is a single big room with only around 6 sets of sockets! Wonder if it was done by EU folks?

Single light circuit is another thing, though I would not be too surprised if that unmarked 16A turned out to be attic lights. And there is an outside PIR flood-lamp that is playing up and she is unaware of any means to switch it off, or indeed what circuit it was taken off.
 
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While trying to find out why a bathroom light doesn't work (for 3 months and multiple people have looked at it and ran away), it was obvious there was no power to switch...and the cable toner/tracer led me to this point as where it left the room. There was a suspicious severed cable the other side of the wall so I thought I'd have a look.
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I decided to make the old feed safe and run a new one in the end. As there was no loft at all in this house it was time to break out the super-rods and today was my lucky day:.
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And then some D-Line, sticks like, and filler (and some future sanding and painting....)
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The exciting candlelit bathroom visits are no more.
 

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Raptor0014 said:
Nicely done! I particularly like how they have left some of the bedding material on the conductors to give that little bit of extra protection. It’s little touches like that which sets them apart from other installers…
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I agree it’s probably one of the best worse.
It looks like they couldn’t be bothered with the cabinet door either.
 
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This is at the funeral directors I’m at today.
Behind a locked door, so no immediate danger, but I’ve told them to talk to DNO.

3ph cut out. L1 unused, L2 does the funeral parlour and L3 (which I suspect is a link) runs upstairs to another fuse for a flat.

Should have been noticed when the meter was changed last September.

L1 has two exposed terminals, L2 has its spare terminal capped off with a plastic pin and L3 has 1 exposed terminal.

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What an utterly stupid position to fit the main switch with the top so close to the top of the meter box, the outgoing tails then look a mess, that was probably the meter bodger fitter though. I don't suppose the Electrical Contractors have the initials CE by any chance ?
 
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Went to one of the local residents place today as she was having issues with her Zappi and Renault Zoe.

Looking at the setup it was straightforward and, whilst not necessarily the way I’d have done it, it was still compliant.

So tried to run a Zs test L-PE but got a ‘con’ error on my Megger which means the earth is either unstable or disconnected. R1-R2 was within tolerance. So I knew the continuity through was fine.

The Zoe is quite fussy and if it detects an earth problem it won’t let the car charge.

House is out in the stick and on a TT system. So I ran a Ze at the origin of the supply and this was the lowest result I got.

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It was fluctuating between 688 and 746.

Someone has had the wisdom to bury the earth rod connection under some decking and flower bed. Meaning it’s inaccessible to check if it’s just loose, or poorly installed.

Ground is rocky as hell so going to be fun getting in some new rods to get the Ze below 200. May end up daisy chaining 3-4 rods just to get it down. But will see how it goes.
 
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Raptor0014 said:
Someone has had the wisdom to bury the earth rod connection under some decking and flower bed. Meaning it’s inaccessible to check if it’s just loose, or poorly installed.

Ground is rocky as hell so going to be fun getting in some new rods to get the Ze below 200. May end up daisy chaining 3-4 rods just to get it down. But will see how it goes.
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It has also been very dry so if the rod is not deep it probably has got that issue as well.

Might be an excuse to try one of these (and the matching SDS adaptor) to get a new rod down through rocky ground:
www.cef.co.uk

Earth Rod Pro Drill Bit (Pack of 1)

Allows rapid earth rod installation when used with Earth Rod Pro drivers - sold separately [1LERPD] and [1LERPM]
www.cef.co.uk
 
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pc1966 said:
It has also been very dry so if the rod is not deep it probably has got that issue as well.

Might be an excuse to try one of these (and the matching SDS adaptor) to get a new rod down through rocky ground:
www.cef.co.uk

Earth Rod Pro Drill Bit (Pack of 1)

Allows rapid earth rod installation when used with Earth Rod Pro drivers - sold separately [1LERPD] and [1LERPM]
www.cef.co.uk
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Already have the adapter and have quoted for the sacrificial bits.

Used them before and they are very good. I’m guessing they have only used 1 rod as I can usually get the reading somewhere around 50ohms if I use two 16mm rods.
 
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Raptor0014 said:
Already have the adapter and have quoted for the sacrificial bits.

Used them before and they are very good.
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Good to hear! I modified M16 stainless threaded rod with angle grinder to achieve much the same before.
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I’m guessing they have only used 1 rod as I can usually get the reading somewhere around 50ohms if I use two 16mm rods.
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If you can get two coupled and driven in to 2.4m depth hopefully enough damp down there for a decent reading. Beware if heavy rain soon as it could mask how dry it is capable of getting in that area.
 
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