I need help wiring up a Quinetic 2 gang receiver switch

[Ineedhelp]

Hi All,

I am looking to install a Quinetic double gang in line receiver switch (QURS2W) in my hallway on the ground floor to control the lights in the hallway on the ground as well as the first floor.

On the first floor, I propose to pair up a 2 gang Quinetic switch.

The wiring is all old and I need a bit of help figuring out how to wire the switch up from the old two-gang switch.

The Quinetic switch has 3 ports L1, L2 & Live Line whereas the existing switch has 5 cables going into it (pictures attached)

Please could someone guide me as to wire this switch up.

Thanks in advance

 

[littlespark]

Can you post a picture of the quinetic switch and relay? Front and back, showing the connections.

Usually a branded quenitic switch has no connections.... its just a transmitter.... the relay receiver has the L,L1 and L2.

You might find that that switch off the wall, pictured, is carrying 2 circuits. upstairs lights and downstairs light. Take extra care!
The red/yellow/blue is a two way.... the red/black is a one way switch

Can you explain exactly how you want the lights and switch to function.... I presume you have a 2 way system on the stair light already?

 

[Ineedhelp]

Hi, the current setup is as follows:

Ground floor: 2 gang switch which controls the hallway lights on the ground and first floor.

First floor: 1 gang switch which only controls the lights on the first floor. (pictured below)


I would like to be able to control the lights on the ground floor and first floor from each floor. Whereas currently, I cannot control the lights on the ground floor from the first floor.

So my idea is to install the 2 gang Quinetic inline receiver on the ground floor and have the wireless 2 gang Quinetic switch on the first floor

 

[Ineedhelp]

 

[Ineedhelp]

 

[felippe]

Hi
Did you sort it out?

 

[littlespark]

Hi
Did you sort it out?

I would suspect so after nearly two years…

Do you have the same problem?

 

[felippe]

I would suspect so after nearly two years…

Do you have the same problem?

Unfortunately yes I do , I bought the same switch and I have exactly the same issue.
Any chance to resolve it?

 

[Avo Mk8]

Unfortunately yes I do , I bought the same switch and I have exactly the same issue.
Any chance to resolve it?

It can be resolved, but might be a bit of a faff.
The problem is that Quinetic switches implement 2-way switching differently - they are only single way switches, so the 2 way function has to be achieved with another Quinetic transmitter switch (non wired) sending an rf signal from upstairs to your new switch installed downstairs.

The wiring in the upstairs switch box would need to be reconfigured, so there's no wired switch there any more, and so that one gang of the downstairs Quinetic switch will turn the upstairs light on & off. Then a blanking plate put over the upstairs box and a single Quinetic self powered switch stuck on top.

If your switches currently perform exactly the same function as the OP's, there's another aspect to be checked first - is the upstairs light on the same circuit as the downstairs light? You might check in the consumer unit that one breaker turns off both upstairs and downstairs hall lights (or let us know if not!).
A pic of your consumer unit, assuming the breakers are labelled, might help!

 

[felippe]

It can be resolved, but might be a bit of a faff.
The problem is that Quinetic switches implement 2-way switching differently - they are only single way switches, so the 2 way function has to be achieved with another Quinetic transmitter switch (non wired) sending an rf signal from upstairs to your new switch installed downstairs.

The wiring in the upstairs switch box would need to be reconfigured, so there's no wired switch there any more, and so that one gang of the downstairs Quinetic switch will turn the upstairs light on & off. Then a blanking plate put over the upstairs box and a single Quinetic self powered switch stuck on top.

If your switches currently perform exactly the same function as the OP's, there's another aspect to be checked first - is the upstairs light on the same circuit as the downstairs light? You might check in the consumer unit that one breaker turns off both upstairs and downstairs hall lights (or let us know if not!).
A pic of your consumer unit, assuming the breakers are labelled, might help!

Can you post a picture of the quinetic switch and relay? Front and back, showing the connections.

Usually a branded quenitic switch has no connections.... its just a transmitter.... the relay receiver has the L,L1 and L2.

You might find that that switch off the wall, pictured, is carrying 2 circuits. upstairs lights and downstairs light. Take extra care!
The red/yellow/blue is a two way.... the red/black is a one way switch

Can you explain exactly how you want the lights and switch to function.... I presume you have a 2 way system on the stair light already?

 

[felippe]

I didn't want to open up the ceiling to connect the receiver and from the moment I have the switch and wiring on the walls wanted to extend the usage of the switches in places we don't have a switch, if it's not possible I will return it and get receivers and switches separately then.
Thank you

 

[littlespark]

Be aware that the initial responses to this post are 2 years out of date.

Ideally, @felippe you need an electrician to work out if those two switches are on the same circuit, and isolate the other end of the 3 core. There will possibly be another live feed at the other end. Is it possible to take a photo of the back of the other switch?

Safely isolated, of course.

 

[Avo Mk8]

I didn't want to open up the ceiling to connect the receiver and from the moment I have the switch and wiring on the walls wanted to extend the usage of the switches in places we don't have a switch, if it's not possible I will return it and get receivers and switches separately then.
Thank you

The photo confirms that upstairs lighting is on a separate supply from downstairs, each on a different rccb.

The issue is the Quinetic switch has just one live input, so if you fit it downstairs and power the upstairs light from it (by using one of the grey/brown/black wires), the bulb would have live from the downstairs circuit, but neutral from the upstairs circuit, so an RCCB will likely trip.
You will probably need an electrician to change the house wiring to be able to use that Quinetic switch.

 

[littlespark]

The photo confirms that upstairs lighting is on a separate supply from downstairs, each on a different rccb.

Does it though?

It shows that the live feed for the 2 way is at another switch, but not necessarily off a different circuit.
The only way to confirm is to turn off one circuit at the circuit breaker and see if both lights go off… or just one. Then repeat with other breaker.

Of course, it’s a high possibility that they are different circuits…. But that can’t be determined from a photo.

 

[Avo Mk8]

Does it though?

It shows that the live feed for the 2 way is at another switch, but not necessarily off a different circuit.
The only way to confirm is to turn off one circuit at the circuit breaker and see if both lights go off… or just one. Then repeat with other breaker.

Of course, it’s a high possibility that they are different circuits…. But that can’t be determined from a photo.

Fair point.
I did suggest earlier to the OP that he turn off MCB's to see if both lights are on the same circuit, but not clear of the outcome.
I just made the rash assumptions, firstly that the single gang 2 way switch is upstairs, and secondly that the upstairs light would be on the upstairs circuit (given the downstairs and upstairs lighting circuits are on different RCCB's)

 

[brianmoooore]

, and secondly that the upstairs light would be on the upstairs circuit (given the downstairs and upstairs lighting circuits are on different RCCB's)

If I had designed the original wiring for this house, I would have deliberately placed the upstairs bedroom lights on a different circuit and RCD from the stairs and any upstairs passage lights, so that in the event of either circuit failing there would still be a working light either inside or immediately outside of each bedroom.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that designs like this, so, in spite of the labelling on the CU there's a reasonable chance they're on the same circuit, but only testing will confirm or otherwise.

 

[felippe]

Fair point.
I did suggest earlier to the OP that he turn off MCB's to see if both lights are on the same circuit, but not clear of the outcome.
I just made the rash assumptions, firstly that the single gang 2 way switch is upstairs, and secondly that the upstairs light would be on the upstairs circuit (given the downstairs and upstairs lighting circuits are on different RCCB's)

Yes it's like you said exactly ,the single gang 2 way switch is upstairs and they are in different circuit from the downstairs lights.I probably will get this back, it's no point getting in such trouble about a switch, I thought it would be easier but anyway.
Thank you all for all your suggestion and help but it looks like after 2 years no solution was found for the qunietick switch