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i am thinking about starting an electrician course i live i plymouth
need some advise please... which places have got a good reputation
for people with no experience etc thanks luca
 
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No engineer54 it changes from April 2013 you need a level 3 qual and the 17th regs course. I was joking about becoming a plumber lol - electrical theory is actually really interesting.
 
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Spark2be said:
No engineer54 it changes from April 2013 you need a level 3 qual and the 17th regs course. I was joking about becoming a plumber lol - electrical theory is actually really interesting.
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We'll see!! Don't hold your breath on that one, it'll cost them dearly!! They will undoubtedly find ways around anything, that will see a decline in growth and profits!! lol!!
 
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Been in the game for over twenty odd years and sadly the industry has fallen into a hole which has got deeper each year. This has been made worse by all these scam schemes encouraging
immigrant labour giving them licence to become so called "qualified' and then go and carry out sub-standard work at ridiculously low prices with the money then being sent out of the country. I like many a time served spark is now wondering if there is a viable future in this industry worth staying involved for.
 
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Engineer54 said:
We'll see!! Don't hold your breath on that one, it'll cost them dearly!! They will undoubtedly find ways around anything, that will see a decline in growth and profits!! lol!!
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Call me an old cynic if you want mate but I reckon what the scams will do is offer conditional acceptance onto the DI register providing THEIR L3 qual is completed within a certain timeframe as THEIR qual will be better than anyone else's.
I believe it's an NVQ that's going to be the reuirement though, all the same they'll be offering them.
 
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rattlehead85 said:
Been in the game for over twenty odd years and sadly the industry has fallen into a hole which has got deeper each year. This has been made worse by all these scam schemes encouraging
immigrant labour giving them licence to become so called "qualified' and then go and carry out sub-standard work at ridiculously low prices with the money then being sent out of the country. I like many a time served spark is now wondering if there is a viable future in this industry worth staying involved for.
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It's not just immigrant labour mate so you can't blame them for this. How many times have you seen posts from brits on here telling us their fully qualified scam members and askeing how to do the most basic task
 
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Even the once reputable J.I.B grading scheme has been made a mockery of by the amount of non english speaking labour freely wielding gold cards and technician gradings when actually put to the test cant even correctly wire a basic 2 way lighting configuration.
 
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trev said:
Call me an old cynic if you want mate but I reckon what the scams will do is offer conditional acceptance onto the DI register providing THEIR L3 qual is completed within a certain timeframe as THEIR qual will be better than anyone else's.
I believe it's an NVQ that's going to be the reuirement though, all the same they'll be offering them.
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The PAT C&G qualification is deemed level 3, so maybe they'll use this as a wiggle move!! lol!!! :smilewinkgrin:
 
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trev said:
rattlehead85 said:
Been in the game for over twenty odd years and sadly the industry has fallen into a hole which has got deeper each year. This has been made worse by all these scam schemes encouraging
immigrant labour giving them licence to become so called "qualified' and then go and carry out sub-standard work at ridiculously low prices with the money then being sent out of the country. I like many a time served spark is now wondering if there is a viable future in this industry worth staying involved for.
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It's not just immigrant labour mate so you can't blame them for this. How many times have you seen posts from brits on here telling us their fully qualified scam members and askeing how to do the most basic task
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No they aren't solely to blame but the influx of unskilled people instigated the chaos. These now ill prepared scammers come about by adopting the same approach as them and who can blame them. The attitude seems to be one of "if they can do it i will to" This now leaves the trusted time served spark out on a limb as the majority will now prefer to pay less and hope for the best rather than be assured a quality job at the right fee.
 
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Spark2be said:
No engineer54 it changes from April 2013 you need a level 3 qual and the 17th regs course. I was joking about becoming a plumber lol - electrical theory is actually really interesting.
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you needed the 17th edition anyway,....so nowts changed there then.....oh, and the `nvq` for acceptance onto a scam is dumbed down for DIs.....its level 2.....
 
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C&G 2330 level 2
C&G 2330 level 3...finish this year.
C&G 2382 17th edition 3 years ago
C&G 2392...3 years ago
C&G 2391...1 year ago
C&G 2377-11....1 year ago
C&G 2377-12....1 year ago
emergency first aider....3 years ago
CSCS card....3 years ago
elecsa registered ...1 year ago..
NVQ3....about 2 thirds done...
 
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Got my Gold card over a year ago, so you work it out.

Look Glenn, I'm not knocking you. You appear to be very knowledgeable. I made a light-hearted comment about your enthusiastic use of unnecessary punctuation (which is true) and you have replied with unsubstantiated assertions about my input (which I believe to be not true).

(and put the full stops.............. down!)
 
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Spark2be said:
No engineer54 it changes from April 2013 you need a level 3 qual and the 17th regs course. I was joking about becoming a plumber lol - electrical theory is actually really interesting.
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Your talking about what is the unknown as yet, expect plenty of swerving curb balls and ducking and diving by these scam providers...lol!! Even if what you say is totally correct, it's years too late, there must be thousands upon thousands of unqualified and inexperienced fast track scam registered wanna-be electricians out there, working on electrical installations in unsuspecting peoples homes!!!
 
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anyway.....thats the long n short of it.....
i never said i had my level three finished......but i am finding it straighforward....
my 2391..i got towards the end of my 1st year at college....
my 2382 i got before i started college....it was at that point that i decided that if i wanted to persue a career in the electrical field....then it had to be done in the correct manner......thats why i chose to get myself to college and enrol on the 2330.......and i will maintain that it was the right and correct thing to do and would also encourage anyone wishing to get into the electrical trade that this is the way to go...not and i repeat not the `become an electrician in 6 weeks` avenue....
further more i only give advice on stuff i know about and refuse to hand out advice that could be misleading and/or otherwise dangerous to the recipient of such advices.....
as for where do i go after i have finished college.....who knows?...
i may decide to go further ..or i may decide to carry on doing what i`m currently doing (ECRs, install etc)
we`ll see..
 
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GLENNSPARK said:
anyway.....thats the long n short of it.....
i never said i had my level three finished......but i am finding it straighforward....
my 2391..i got towards the end of my 1st year at college....
my 2382 i got before i started college....it was at that point that i decided that if i wanted to persue a career in the electrical field....then it had to be done in the correct manner......thats why i chose to get myself to college and enrol on the 2330.......and i will maintain that it was the right and correct thing to do and would also encourage anyone wishing to get into the electrical trade that this is the way to go...not and i repeat not the `become an electrician in 6 weeks` avenue....
further more i only give advice on stuff i know about and refuse to hand out advice that could be misleading and/or otherwise dangerous to the recipient of such advices.....
as for where do i go after i have finished college.....who knows?...
i may decide to go further ..or i may decide to carry on doing what i`m currently doing (ECRs, install etc)
we`ll see..
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I did it pretty much the same way. I started the 2330 course and thought I would be a fully qualified sparks when I finished. How wrong was I!!lol.
I worked for few firms whilst at college to gain the practical experiance but because of my age, I couldnt go down the apprenticeship route. After I completed my 2330 lvl 3, I did the 2382 and the 2391 and still, I was not fully qualified.

I was then fortunate enough, through word of mouth, to be offered a bit of subby work for a firm. It was a mixture of industrial, commercial and domestic. So I decided to do my NVQ 2356, whilst I had the chance. Anyway, I completed my NVQ and I now have my JIB gold card. In another 2 years, I will have my approved status but even with all this, I still feel like Im only scratching the surface in this industry and I probably always will!!!! lol


I was offered a bit of work as a plumber not so long back by my cousin who is a gas engineer. All i would need to do is the NVQ 2 in plumbing, which is a year or two part time at college. And do you know what, Im actually considering it!! If I can do this electrical thingy, I should have no probs doing the plumber stuff!!!!lol

Might look into joinery after that....!!!!lol

Jay
 
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