Connecting 6.0mm T&E

[besenzig]

Running a 20A 6.0mm T&E radial to utility room to supply two single 13A sockets to feed Washing Machine and Tumble Dryer.

The T&E will be terminated in a PVC adaptable box, just wondering how to make the connection to the sockets as terminals
will not take 6.0mm.

Can I use connector strip using 4.0mm or 2.5mm to feed the sockets, was hoping to use Wago but they too will not take 6.0mm.
Is there connector out there that will do the job.

Thanks

 

[Marvo]

Why 6mm for a 20A radial? What's the installation method?

Use sockets that will accept 6mm wiring would be the way to go.

 

[Octopus]

Biting my lip!

 

[7029 dave]

Why 6mm? must be a hell of a run?

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Could I ask why you are using 6mm cable Besen?

2.5mm would be the cable to use, and Wago do make connectors that take 6mm.

 

[ArseyDee]

Utility room is at house number 70. Supply source is at number 4.
Hell of a lot of lofts and insulation to pass through.
Obvious innit!

 

[7029 dave]

Utility room is at house number 70. Supply source is at number 4.
Hell of a lot of lofts and insulation to pass through.
Obvious innit!

Ha Ha that's got to be at least half a mile so it is obvious.:biggrinjester:

 

[besenzig]

Why 6mm? must be a hell of a run?

Cable was orinigally going to be used for feed to garden shed, shed now not going up and the lean to at the rear has been
converted to utility room with W/M & Dryer. Utilising cable run already in situ.

 

[besenzig]

Why 6mm for a 20A radial? What's the installation method?

Use sockets that will accept 6mm wiring would be the way to go.

Can you tell me who makes these sockets.

 

[ArseyDee]

Joking aside, do we have an answer on installation method?

 

[besenzig]

Could I ask why you are using 6mm cable Besen?

2.5mm would be the cable to use, and Wago do make connectors that take 6mm.

Cant seem to find them, would you be able to supply a link. 6mm is already there, originally intended for garden shed but unused so using it for utility room. Over engineered i know but its there.

 

[overskilled]

Can you tell me who makes these sockets.

Lets see:
MK
Crabtree
Contactum
probably a few other brands....

Also wago do 41A rated pushfit connectors that accept 6mm2 cable.
why 6mm2 though? insulated walls?

 

[44ALLAN]

Biting my lip!

lol

 

[ArseyDee]

Cant seem to find them, would you be able to supply a link. 6mm is already there, originally intended for garden shed but unused so using it for utility room. Over engineered i know but its there.

That's not what your original post said! But we now have our answer!

 

[besenzig]

Cabended already there intended for garden shed but unused. Thanks for the socket makes, did not know they made them. Learn one everyday.

 

[besenzig]

Apologies if I mislead you, should have made it clear.

 

[ArseyDee]

Apologies if I mislead you, should have made it clear.

Now I feel bad!

 

[overskilled]

just got to make sure the cable end is freshly stripped and not mashed to heck otherwise your on a hiding to nothing

 

[Gazthesparky]

Done exactly that before, existing 6mm supply repurposed for a dishwasher, washing machine and tumble dryer just used 3 single Mk socket they take 2x 6mm don't mess around with additional connectors to drop the cable size

 

[Marvo]

Apologies if I mislead you, should have made it clear.

Unfortunately your first 6 posts as a new member need to be manually approved before they appear on the forum. I'm a bit slow tonight and I missed this one so it's partly my fault you're getting hammered.

 

[overskilled]

why not a 32Amp radial then? give you some headroom then on the circuit.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Cant seem to find them, would you be able to supply a link. 6mm is already there, originally intended for garden shed but unused so using it for utility room. Over engineered i know but its there.

screwfix sell them (code 25805).

Heres a link:

3-Way Push-Wire Connector 773 Series Pack of 50 | Screwfix.com

 

[Engineer54]

Done exactly that before, existing 6mm supply repurposed for a dishwasher, washing machine and tumble dryer just used 3 single Mk socket they take 2x 6mm don't mess around with additional connectors to drop the cable size

2 X 6mm T&E into single sockets? Totally bonkers!!

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

Done exactly that before, existing 6mm supply repurposed for a dishwasher, washing machine and tumble dryer just used 3 single Mk socket they take 2x 6mm don't mess around with additional connectors to drop the cable size

Did we have to do a bit of pruning to get them in there? :ears:

 

[Engineer54]

Did we have to do a bit of pruning to get them in there? :ears:

Even if he did manage to get them both in, you'll be stripping the screw head before you attained a good solid and lasting connection.

 

[Paul.M]

As already said you can get a twin terminal socket for each conductor. If not go for the MK single termination socket. I've got 2 lots of 6mm in before without giving them a hair cut lol. Below is the MK tech spec for a singe termination socket.....


Terminal capacity:
Live, neutral & earth
3 x 2.5mm2
3 x 4mm2
2 x 6mm2 (stranded)

 

[Deleted member 9648]

2x 6.0mm conductors will go into an MK socket no problem,but as previously stated they need to be cut square and stripped carefully. Insert into terminal as stripped,dont twist the cores up.
Also dont fit the standard lazy a-rse 25mm flush back box,35mm minimum....45 even better.

 

[MDJ]

It is difficult to stick 2 6mm2 cables into a socket, however the whole thing is wrong. Assuming the 6mm2 is already in place and therefore the OP intends to use it the best method would be a double socket rather than 2 singles, job done, move on LOL

 

[Octopus]

I'd be tempted to put in a sub db so when the client changes their mind about the shed you can add it on easily!

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

Well I'll take your word for it, however I still hope I never come across 2 x 6mm in the back of a socket! Ugh and on a 25mm box as well, no ta!

 

[MDJ]

Good idea by murdoch actually, must be early, I should have suggested that LOL

 

[Pete999]

Why not install a small CU and run 2.5mm to the sockets

 

[MDJ]

Why not install a small CU and run 2.5mm to the sockets

Bolt Horse Pete, see post 29, Merry Christmas by the way fella :carolers:

 

[Gazthesparky]

2 X 6mm T&E into single sockets? Totally bonkers!!

That maybe bonkers but toatly possible MK sockets will accept 2x 6mm no problems. I also used single sockets so each machine has it's own socket so 2 plug tops are not connected to one Double socket

 

[Gazthesparky]

Did we have to do a bit of pruning to get them in there? :ears:

No pruning at all they flew in

 

[MDJ]

That maybe bonkers but toatly possible MK sockets will accept 2x 6mm no problems. I also used single sockets so each machine has it's own socket so 2 plug tops are not connected to one Double socket

You may get 2 X 6mm2 conductors into the terminals, but how will you get the single socket back against the pattrice LOL

 

[MDJ]

Well I'll take your word for it, however I still hope I never come across 2 x 6mm in the back of a socket! Ugh and on a 25mm box as well, no ta!

With you there, that would be a bad design and a bodge up, thats why I sugessted one twin socket rather than 2 singles so only one 6mm2 conductor is needed, that said after seeing murdochs reply I am now on the side of a small DB

 

[Gazthesparky]

You can use a 35mm deep box no problems and what exactly is wrong with having a 6mm radial instead of a 4mm or even 2.5mm

As long as you terminate the cable correctly and dress the cables back there's no problem

 

[MDJ]

Come on Gaz, to attempt to stick 2 6mm2 in a single socket when there is no need to is just plain Daft IMHO, and I suspect others will agree as well, have you been at the christmas sherry already?

 

[MDJ]

You can use a 35mm deep box no problems and what exactly is wrong with having a 6mm radial instead of a 4mm or even 2.5mm

As long as you terminate the cable correctly and dress the cables back there's no problem

I am not suggesting it cannot be achieved, I am suggesting it is a silly way to make an appliance work under the circumstances mentioned in the OP, the design is poor.