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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[Ib≤In≤Iz]

That JB lid looks like it isn't fitting well...maybe ditch those bare earth wires and connect to the cold water feed?

Yes they should've used the copper pipe as a cpc really, a bs951 at the top and another at the bottom lol. Who needs a cpc anyway.

 

[pirate]

I was thinking Jubilee clips?

 

[Ib≤In≤Iz]

I was thinking Jubilee clips?

Yes sorry my bad, jubilee clips would be more than sufficient lol

 

[Kamikaze]

Showed the apprentice how it was done before we had all these fancy ladders and hammers.

 

[pirate]

Of course, strain relief is of paramount importance, especially outdoors...

 

[Malcolm]

Working on a kitchen install.
The ccu cover had one screw and been grip filled.



On prising out I found out why.


Then got to the sockets.


Previous fitter had a lucky escape.

 

[dksanders]

The left hand cable to the junction is in the new, angled, slidey, slopey, cabling zone too.

 

[123]

We need a "That's a Rank Install" button.

 

[pirate]

On the subject of strain relief...

 

[Ib≤In≤Iz]

What a pro who did this

 

[pirate]

It's the old question...cleats or saddles?
The answer my friend is blowing in the wind...

 

[pirate]

Of course, cable ties are always good, especially for mixed media...

 

[pirate]

Of course, cable ties are always good, especially for mixed media...

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[pirate]

and never mix your services...

 

[pirate]

Just when I thought jubilee clips were ideal for bonding...
well, this from a restaurant I was in the other night...

 

[AJshep]

Got called to look at moving a DB the other day.
It looks like someone thought they convert a split load board to provide dual RCD by changing the main switch. Lol

 

[Strima]

I’ve had a lovely day tracing Kev’s top notch wiring... All of them were live.

 

[pirate]

OMG...that's quite a gallery of awfulness!
Is that a piece of T&E nailed across as a cable clip/restraint?

 

[pirate]

I mean, we've all seen chocblock with insulating tape before...but BLUE??? Honestly, no fashion sense these Kevs!

 

[Rpa07]

It’s the masking tape and crimps that give it some class!
I’ve been in a house today previously owned by an electrician - it’s not much better!

 

[telectrix]

It’s the masking tape and crimps that give it some class!
I’ve been in a house today previously owned by an electrician - it’s not much better!

horses for courses. a vehicle mechanic's car is usually held together with duct tape. a plumber's house leaks like the Titanic.

 

[Strima]

It’s the masking tape and crimps that give it some class!
I’ve been in a house today previously owned by an electrician - it’s not much better!

That's not masking tape, its Sellotape...

 

[Rpa07]

I guess sellotape is just immature masking tape.

That's not masking tape, its Sellotape...

 

[pirate]

Renovating...

Opened it up...

Clearly MF and airtight.

Was wondering about this...

Think it's some kind of emergency lighting thing...a grommet wouldn't have broken the bank, given it's a private health, fitness and sports club.

 

[happysteve]

"CAUTION: This installation neutral link has wiring to two versions of BS7671." Innovative design, there... charred black on the bottom, modern blue at the top!

Solid neutral links often lead to problems (doesn't help if the terminal cage is partly on the insulation, either). Main switch was completely burnt out (luckily in the "open" position) and made crunching noises as I closed it.

 

[Toneyz]

Had to tilt my head to the right. Had this before with a Legrand C.U. wasn't loose.

 

[telectrix]

may well be burnt contacts inside the switch causing excessive heat.

 

[happysteve]

may well be burnt contacts inside the switch causing excessive heat.

Could be. Though about 2mm of the solid link was clamped on the insulation. I think because there's no "give" in the solid conductors, it's not as forgiving.

 

[Bobster]

Could be. Though about 2mm of the solid link was clamped on the insulation. I think because there's no "give" in the solid conductors, it's not as forgiving.

Have to disagree with you there. No copper creep on solid conductors, although they can't carry as much current as stranded ones.

 

[happysteve]

Have to disagree with you there. No copper creep on solid conductors, although they can't carry as much current as stranded ones.

What I mean is, because there's no give, if the flat clamp cage is (partly) on the insulation, there will be very little force on the copper: the cage will be tightly clamped to the insulation. On stranded conductors, because they move about as you tighten the clamp (partly on the insulation), you're more likely to make at least some connection with the copper.

But I agree with you about the creep.

 

[pirate]

Yes, the creep is always a problem...Jimmy Saville for one.
Seriously though, I do understand creep in cables, but I was wondering...if a clamp is skewed, so is touching insulation and the copper, is a tight connection that way better then one which is making full connection with the copper but not very tightly?
I would tend to favour the former, as there would maybe be lack of movement, whereas in the latter, you have a bigger area to exploit arcing?
Please, don't hit me! I am genuinely interested to hear your views.

 

[Dave OCD]

Steve, it looks like a storage heater distribution board judging by the 16a MCBs and 2.5mm circuits ? A combination of cheapy board, poor workmanship and a substantial load for several hours a day would certainly cause the problems found.
I think we'd be better off using metal boards to reduce the risk of fire in such cases. Oh hang on a minute....

 

[Wilko]

Hi Pirate - the correct mm2 contact area is critical to avoid heating and the pressure from the clamp ensures the contact is maintained over time etc. Without both the result is an unpredictable failure, imho .

 

[davesparks]

The view from my bedroom window this morning

 

[Andy78]

The view from my bedroom window this morning

FFS, Even this guy is laughing at these idiots

 

[johnduffell]

The view from my bedroom window this morning

Working at height, how could that be dangerous?

 

[telectrix]

apparently there are no trees in the area, so this tree hugger has retrained in 5 weeks to become a fully qualified (domestic only) chimney hugger.

 

[Wilko]

Someone needs to explain to them the difference between a mechanism and a structure . Or they'll learn it on the job at some point unfortunately.

 

[JK-Electrical]

This video montage contains some truly shocking examples of extremely poor 'workmanship' and gross stupidity. As the 'music' in the video is quite atrocious I would recommend that you watch with your speakers turned off.

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[telectrix]

just wonderoing which is the worst. the music or the video.