Help needed. Garage wiring

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As people have said it’s not as simple as just giving advice. There are to many just wanting advice but in reality they want a step by step guide. To be fair why should we when we have all worked and studied hard and pay money to get where we are. Advice is fine, step by step is not
 
Yes, so i have explained my situation, been honest about not know weather the sheds are earthed, their old limestone, with 1 steel structural beam through. They have been wired with 6mm t&e to a switchbox in the shed which im looking to replace. Its been wired and working for 20 years so surely it is earthed. What type im not sure of. All i was after was a get an electrician, or yes im sure it can be done, even to a certain extent. But anyway, thanks.
 
Afoster615 said:
Its been wired and working for 20 years so surely it is earthed. What type im not sure of. All i was after was a get an electrician, or yes im sure it can be done, even to a certain extent. But anyway, thanks.
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Hi mate.
Yes it may have been working for the past 20 years or even working before that but it's not up to current regs.
Take a 25 year old car. Yes it will still get you to the shops but it lacks all the modern safety features.
Same with wiring mate. You can't wire to regs 20 years old.
 
Hi spoon. Understand in that respect, to be honest its something i was exited about doing as ive always had an interest in domestic installation, but i guess for now i may just hire an electrician. Thanks for your feedback.
 
A lot of us have seen DIY bodges that make us go white.

Electrical work can look deceptively easy, with the right training and experience it can be.

BUT without the correct knowledge and experience you can end up with a functioning but incredibly dangerous installation.

The regulations are there to try and prevent death and injury not because we like spending a fortune on keeping up with the regs and test equipment.

You will be hard pressed to get the information you need here as most electricians do not want to encourage the kind of work we know to be potentially very dangerous.

I don't imagine this will make the slightest bit of difference to you but it's worth a try. :)
 
Hi ferg, thanks for your reply, this is what ive been after, some solid advice on why not to DIY. Im not going to ignore your honesty on electrical safety in relation to me installing it myself, so for that reason im going to source an electrician and see what he can offer towards this approach, thanks.
 
Afoster615 said:
Hi spoon. Understand in that respect, to be honest its something i was exited about doing as ive always had an interest in domestic installation, but i guess for now i may just hire an electrician. Thanks for your feedback.
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House wiring does look easy, after all, its just wires. Some DIYers get angry with us some times when we don't give them the info they want. They know the principle but don't know how to do it correctly.
Not wanting to sound like an ---, but even brain surgery is simple, in principle. Brain Cancer: Open up the head, remove cancer, close head.
We have to work to regs and we will not give any info out that is out of date.
Personally I don't have any test kit, so last time I wanted work doing in my kitchen I got a guy in to do it, and also got a cert for the work.
 
Spoon said:
House wiring does look easy, after all, its just wires.
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Exactly what i was thinking before i started this thread.
When i walk around the house inspecting what way its been wired it seems relatively simple,obviously not tracking it to the beginning of the installation.
its a pity ive also no knowledge on current regs and earth bonding.
i have wired the kitchen with a new light circuit for down lights and undercupboard lights, which i why i thought this garage project would be do-able. But i appear to be wrong. And appreciate your advice
 
any spark should be able to quote for the job FOC. then if you want to do the donkey work under his supervision, that could save you sme money.
 
Julius Caesar was giving advice down the Forum. When it went wrong he was stabbed in the back.

There were no ambulance chasing solicitors in his day so they resorted to the tried and tested method of compensation.
 
et tu, brute.
 
Well, can safely say its all completed, every bit installed by myself, and inspected and tested by a qualified electrician, whom was more than happy with the work i had done. I guess any “donkey” can do these types of jobs.
 
Afoster615 said:
Well, can safely say its all completed, every bit installed by myself, and inspected and tested by a qualified electrician, whom was more than happy with the work i had done. I guess any “donkey” can do these types of jobs.
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Congrats. Did the electrician give you a cert?
 
Afoster615 said:
Well, can safely say its all completed, every bit installed by myself, and inspected and tested by a qualified electrician, whom was more than happy with the work i had done. I guess any “donkey” can do these types of jobs.
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Good to hear, you work fast for someone who was apparently working today while making 50k.

I'd love to see some pictures of your install that you done, we can give some feedback on what has been done to aid you in your learning of course.
 
Well yea your right, i wasnt working today. Feel free to come over an have a look. Guests are always welcome. Why have you to be so nasty about this davespark? Why not give someone a little credit. An take my word for it.
As the walls sockets etc where already wired in before it didnt actually take me that long to change over.
hardest part was connecting to new sub CU.
 
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So mate, did you get a cert from the electrician?
 
Afoster615 said:
Well yea your right, i wasnt working today. Feel free to come over an have a look. Guests are always welcome. Why have you to be so nasty about this davespark? Why not give someone a little credit. An take my word for it.
As the walls sockets etc where already wired in before it didnt actually take me that long to change over.
hardest part was connecting to new sub CU.
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I am not being nasty, I do believe after giving you some friendly advice you started a personal attack against another person and I, as well as insulting and belittling us.

The whole "I have an Electrician coming to test it" routine is very old on this forums. No one believes it for a second as it is quite far-fetched that someone would simply turn up and put their name to something.

All electrical work (in the UK at least) requires certification. Perhaps not local authority notification depending on your area, but at least some kind of certification. If you didn't get a certificate then how do you know the installation was tested to the correct standard and complied with BS7671?

Also I didn't notice any glands in your pile of goodies, so that calls into question the installation methods of part of your install in my mind.

You came here seeking help with eagerness to learn, but all you have actually done is disregarded what people have said and took insult to genuine advice. Not an ideal way to learn is it?
 
Afoster615 said:
Well, can safely say its all completed, every bit installed by myself, and inspected and tested by a qualified electrician, whom was more than happy with the work i had done. I guess any “donkey” can do these types of jobs.
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And I've just seen a pig flying past the window ...........
 
Such a bunch of immature children!
So because it wasnt in the box i didnt have it? What about all the tools i used aswell? Suppose ive screwed everything up with my hands because the tools werent pictured “in the box” IDIOT! And the regs over here is different than in england. Davidspark, i did mention in a comment underneath my rant that is wasnt aimed at you. There was no offence taken from your comment. And there is also no need for anyone to put their name to the work that was done. You may go read up on regulations in NI there are currently no statutory requirments for domestic installation in NI.
 
Afoster615 said:
Such a bunch of immature children!
So because it wasnt in the box i didnt have it? What about all the tools i used aswell? Suppose ive screwed everything up with my hands because the tools werent pictured “in the box” IDIOT! And the regs over here is different than in england. Davidspark, i did mention in a comment underneath my rant that is wasnt aimed at you. There was no offence taken from your comment. And there is also no need for anyone to put their name to the work that was done. You may go read up on regulations in NI there are currently no statutory requirments for domestic installation in NI.
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In Northern Ireland we work to BS7671, exactly the same regulations as England, Wales, Scotland. As part of BS7671 the work needs tested and relevant certificate issued.
 
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