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hello

i moved in to my place 3 years ago and have been slowly redecorating one room at a time. Im finally on my last room, the living room but for some weird reason the ceiling light isnt in the middle of the room. its off to the side quite far.

The problem is, my ceilings are concrete so i dont want to chase them out, i also dont want to use trunking. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on possible resolutions?

Ive had a few but I don't know if its possible.

The first idea was to somehow have 3 lights coming from one ceiling rose, and then arrange them in a way where they are in a row, so it looks like 3 individual lights hanging from the ceiling, but i dont know if its possible and how that would be done/look

the other idea i had was to buy some kind of strip spotlight fitting that is long, so it can go across the ceiling to make it look like its centered. but i dont know if this is possible either, as i cant find one i like that has regular bulb fittings instead of spot lights and all the strip/spot light style lights iv looked at are all fitted from the centre, i would need one that could be wired at one end, and then stretch out across the ceiling to the middle of the room.

any ideas would be great.

thank you in advance
 
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If the cables are in the concrete and possibly in metal conduit within.
I would fix some thin strips of timber and put plasterboard up and plaster it. You loose say an inch or two in ceiling height.
On the plus side you can have any lights you like from one through to downlights.
If not what about track lighting?
Can be wired from one end then adapted or cut to size, go off on angles etc and lights all adjustable, something like this as robus can be wired from the end.
https://www.lyco.co.uk/acorn-3-light-and-track-kit-white.html
 

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I would steer away from a strip light,in a lounge...

It'll look like gang-master's lodgings,for his cockle-pickers...
 

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Not sure of your taste on decor/style..
The Industrial type look is in trend at the moment, so maybe have a run of galvanized conduit with a few pendant drops with metal lampshades
 

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If the cables are in the concrete and possibly in metal conduit within.
I would fix some thin strips of timber and put plasterboard up and plaster it. You loose say an inch or two in ceiling height.
On the plus side you can have any lights you like from one through to downlights.
If not what about track lighting?
Can be wired from one end then adapted or cut to size, go off on angles etc and lights all adjustable, something like this as robus can be wired from the end.
Robus Acorn Track Light Kit - White - 3 Lights - Lyco - https://www.lyco.co.uk/acorn-3-light-and-track-kit-white.html
I’d avoid the 50w halogens though and replace with GU10 LEDs.
 

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Not sure of your taste on decor/style..
The Industrial type look is in trend at the moment, so maybe have a run of galvanized conduit with a few pendant drops with metal lampshades
We have an old original sandstone pub up here done like that , in particular the fireplace wall , has a look of bronze hammerite , but is really authentic looking , as we say " looks like it growed there "
 
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the decor colur is silver, grey, whites, with a lot of soft textures like shag rugs, velvet cushions in silver, etc. Just warm and modern looking. i do agree strip lights would be the best idea but i cant find any that look ''homey'', they look a bit too industrial. i just dont know what to do. iv seen some people use chains and then use a hook in the middle of the ceiling to centre it or they use curved trunking instead of regular squared trunking but i am not sure about that. maybe if i upload a photo of the ceiling and how the light is poisition it might help you guys get a better idea of how it looks?
 
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If the cables are in the concrete and possibly in metal conduit within.
I would fix some thin strips of timber and put plasterboard up and plaster it. You loose say an inch or two in ceiling height.
On the plus side you can have any lights you like from one through to downlights.
If not what about track lighting?
Can be wired from one end then adapted or cut to size, go off on angles etc and lights all adjustable, something like this as robus can be wired from the end.
Robus Acorn Track Light Kit - White - 3 Lights - Lyco - https://www.lyco.co.uk/acorn-3-light-and-track-kit-white.html
Not sure of your taste on decor/style..
The Industrial type look is in trend at the moment, so maybe have a run of galvanized conduit with a few pendant drops with metal lampshades
We have an old original sandstone pub up here done like that , in particular the fireplace wall , has a look of bronze hammerite , but is really authentic looking , as we say " looks like it growed there "
here is a photo of what the ceiling light looks like and the position of it. as you can see, it needs to be a lot further over to the right. thumbnail_Off Centre Ceiling Light .jpg
 
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How about a track light fitting? JCC do a nice range of lamps that fit in the track including pendant lights.
 

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What a strange place - almost as if it was once in the centre of a room that then was unequally divided into 4 rooms!
I’d like to think that I was wrong because that would be just odd!
The above idea from Vortigern would allow a long track light fixture in that area left to right that you could fit all sorts of lampage ideas.
Happy hunting!
here is a photo of what the ceiling light looks like and the position of it. as you can see, it needs to be a lot further over to the right. View attachment 49175
 

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batten the ceiling with a square 2 x 2 frame with intermediate studding. make the whole thing 1 ft. all round smaller than the room. extend cable from existing light to centre. square plasterboard false ceiling that overhangs the studding all round by 2". then fit remote control colour change striplighting above the board edges
 
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How about a track light fitting? JCC do a nice range of lamps that fit in the track including pendant lights.
hello. would you be able to give me a link to the kind of thing you're describing please? i looked on the website you suggested and it seems they only have one kind of track lighting with spotlights on them in black. you suggested using a track and putting lights on them like i already have that i could put shades on but i cant see anything like that on there

thank you
 
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batten the ceiling with a square 2 x 2 frame with intermediate studding. make the whole thing 1 ft. all round smaller than the room. extend cable from existing light to centre. square plasterboard false ceiling that overhangs the studding all round by 2". then fit remote control colour change striplighting above the board edges
hello. thanks for youre reply. i did want to ovoid big jobs like that. i was looking for a simple option
 
You have a long way to move over compared to the one in that link, it would not give the same effect and in my opinion you would quickly regret it.
 
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You have a long way to move over compared to the one in that link, it would not give the same effect and in my opinion you would quickly regret it.
you are probably right. do you think i should leave it as it is and just put a spot light unit there? or do you think i should used curved trunking? or find some kind of track lighting?

out of the three options what would you go with?
 

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I think for you to be happy with it you will be have to go with @telectrix suggestion . It will always be on your mind in my opinion.
 
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What you do is get an adapter for the track to put any light you want on to the adapter. i.e. a track light adapter you would be looking for.
 
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What you do is get an adapter for the track to put any light you want on to the adapter. i.e. a track light adapter you would be looking for.
thanks so much for your reply and showing me the links. just to summerize so i know i understand this right. Say for example i wanted 3 lights on the track, what i would need to buy would be a track, 3 adapters? (one for each light) and then 3 of whichever pendants i like?
 
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thanks so much for your reply
Exactly that. You should also make sure you get the terminal end which the wire/supply goes into and attaches to the track. As a slight aside you can get the track to go at 90 degrees as well with a 90 degree connector.
 
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Exactly that. You should also make sure you get the terminal end which the wire/supply goes into and attaches to the track. As a slight aside you can get the track to go at 90 degrees as well with a 90 degree connector.
hello. not quite sure what you mean, but i have been looking around online and i think i have found something suitable that i like. could you take a look at the link and tell me what you think? its about 6 foot long so it will cover most of the ceiling. but it says it takes G9 bulbs, i have a lamp that takes a G9 bulb and it isnt very bright, but this one i found does have 5 of them and it says its a 33 watt which is the equivalentt to a 43 watt regular bulb (33 watt per g9 bulb i assume), just worried it might not be bright enough like my regular 60 watt bulb is. also i would probably use the cool white LED g9 bulbs instead of the warm white g9 bulbs that comes with this

Eglo VILANOVA ceiling spotlight aluminium, 5-light sources - https://www.illumination.co.uk/eglo-vilanova-ceiling-spotlight-93361-do2.html
 

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you would need 5 x 5watt LED bulbs to match the light output of those halogen ones. not seen G9 > 3watt.
 

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that looks like a solution. they are shorter because the clue is in the description....compact. ( that does mean they fit in a lampholder, not a make-up bag. :D:D:D:D:D.)
 
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that looks like a solution. they are shorter because the clue is in the description....compact. ( that does mean they fit in a lampholder, not a make-up bag. :D:D:D:D:D.)
lol thanks, so the length of them doesnt effect the brightness? it would be just as bright as a regular length one?
 

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the brightness is only governed by having sufficient voltage. lack of volts will only occur on a much longer cable run.
 
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