recessed downlights....

[sythai]

Hi Chaps....

This one is for anyone that prices by point.

Just want see how I compare and what others are charging per down light.

I charge £38/per standard GU10 fitting any finish non IP - regardless of how many.

Many Thanks,

Sy

 

[Octopus]

Does that price include bonding upgrades, RCD's etc?

 

[sythai]

Nop that's all on top if required....

Also based on it being a plasterboard ceiling - new build or fully occupied house with chipboard floors same price.

Doesn't included patching or re skimming ceiling if required (no access from above - tiled floor etc) or getting carpet back down perfectly

 

[ezzzekiel]

depends what price youre getting the downlights for (if youre supplying them that is)
but at that price an average room of 8 at around £300 not incudng any other work which wth bonding and rcd protection would prbably make a bill of around £500 for a days work, customer will only see the cost of materials (and thats just the basics)

 

[i=p/u]

£3.50 a fitting £1 a jnction box and a 35p a mter of cable, bulb £1 each talking £60 for materials max so £240 for a days work sounds good to me but it probably take me two days. and still sounds good

 

[High Tower]

£3.50 a fitting £1 a jnction box and a 35p a mter of cable, bulb £1 each talking £60 for materials max so £240 for a days work sounds good to me but it probably take me two days. and still sounds good

Where are you getting fire rated downlighters from for £3.50 and can you get me some?

your living in a dream world !

try this and you might actually comply with regs.

FR downlight, im getting them for £6.35 with the vat
3 wagos £0.60
1 wago/ choc box £1-1.75 ish
3mtrs cable per fitting which allows for supply runs, £1.20-1.75
decent lamp as customer will go radio if the cheap £1 bulb blows in a fortnight £2
and if its LV then £4.50 for a tranny

 

[i=p/u]

only have to be fire rated if theres insulation above, most say long as 100mm clearance all angles, £3.50 normal robus foittings is good to go? maybe im wrong hightower, but manufactures instructions over rules all

 

[Octopus]

Do you think its a good idea to discuss such costings in the open forum? Maybe best in the Arms.

 

[sythai]

Do you think its a good idea to discuss such costings in the open forum? Maybe best in the Arms.

To be fair I have tried that before but takes a little too long to get a response if any.... :sad_smile: Nothing to hide with my pricing it's all clear and transparent to my customers :smiley2:

Oh well it was worth a try posting, was doubtful I would get a simple answer of £xx/ per fitting. Maybe I was being a little vague with my inital post..... nevermind.

Thanks anyway Sy

 

[telectrix]

i charge a bit less than you ( £25-£30 ) if it's easy access above ( proper floor, not weetabix.) around the same £35-£40 if it's a pain.

 

[sythai]

Thanks Tel..... :smiley2:

 

[telectrix]

but for fire rated robus with 5watt LED lamps, more like £50+ (they gets what they pay for).

 

[Amp David]

only have to be fire rated if theres insulation above, most say long as 100mm clearance all angles, £3.50 normal robus foittings is good to go? maybe im wrong hightower, but manufactures instructions over rules all

Where's the idea of 'only has to be fire rated if there is insulation above' come from?

 

[telectrix]

the old myth. the fact is that fire rated fittings are to preserve fire barriers. it don't make anything fire proof. fire rated fittings are only demanded when the above floor is separate occupancy or a dwelling room/s above a garage etc.

 

[Amp David]

The Old Myth is starting to wear a bit thin nowadays :****:

 

[telectrix]

a bit like my barnet.

 

[Amp David]

Brilliant, a smiley that you cant see when posted

 

[telectrix]

and the loft insulation cowboys will cram 2 ft of fibreglass over a naked flame if it were left to them.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

£3.50 a fitting £1 a jnction box and a 35p a mter of cable, bulb £1 each talking £60 for materials max so £240 for a days work sounds good to me but it probably take me two days. and still sounds good

why 2 days for some downlights?....plot your joists (to avoid em)..cable, rods..etc....2 days????

 

[i=p/u]

the last time and first time i done them. i marked out all joists and marked all places where wanted lights to go but as i progressed there was double joists and joist crossing for extra support so the few hours i spent marking out was a waste a time. id say next time or time after i will get all done in a day if i cot say 100mm track out all way round room, and i used junction boxes with heat resistant flex off too lights, was very time consumin if i dont say doing it yourself

 

[i=p/u]

you want an apprentice next year glen spark when ive level 3 done before telectrix snaps me up like a sausage roll

 

[Amp David]

The last 2 i did, i was able to get above and drill either side of joists at each end of the room. Chalk lined it all out so could see joist positions. Took a bit of time to set them out but didn't run into cutting into joists

 

[i=p/u]

so how did the cable pass the joists, you squeeze the betwwen floor and joist or what?????

 

[GLENNSPARK]

you want an apprentice next year glen spark when ive level 3 done before telectrix snaps me up like a sausage roll

Why didn`t you go on the apprentice framework from day one?...I am on level 2 year 2 so have the NVQ this year......but the point i was trying to get across was 2 days for some downlights seems a bit exessive.....what do you think?

 

[Amp David]

so how did the cable pass the joists, you squeeze the betwwen floor and joist or what?????

How do you think?

Holes of course and the other was a dropped ceiling so happy days

 

[GLENNSPARK]

How do you think?

Holes of course and the other was a dropped ceiling so happy days

Ripples in the ceiling....lol..........:jester:

 

[telectrix]

blend the artex in with polyfiller.

 

[pennywise]

blend the artex in with polyfiller.

Top tip with artex if it's the swirl pattern from a decorator mate, a sponge in a plastic bag apply artex then give it a swirl :bucktooth:

 

[telectrix]

i generally use the apprentice's head. spin him round twice. luvverly job.

 

[DurhamSparky]

2 days seems very excessive!! how many you fitting 100???

i fitted 10 once in a customer lean to extension with no access from above and no idea where joists where!! took 3/4 of a day between 2 of us..!

 

[i=p/u]

first time on my own, and i know next time will be quicker, so sooner than later il catch yousssssssssss