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Sintra
Well guys and girls, let's see who you are registered with.
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BernardStaunton
I voted none, mainly because I have been living and working in Spain for the last 14 years and probably should not even be on this forum.
Very few of those bodies ring any bells with me so I assume that they have appeared during those 14 years.
Do enjoy keeping up with things back there though while working with very different installations down here.
Very few of those bodies ring any bells with me so I assume that they have appeared during those 14 years.
Do enjoy keeping up with things back there though while working with very different installations down here.
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Robospark
I spend half my time putting right "registered sparks" work. I carry out commercial work and was registered with the NICEIC for ten years. On the commercial side I have never been asked for "who am I with" NEVER!
They want to see C&G certs, insurances, access equipment cards and all the H&S stuff. To be frank I was sick of paying for that corruptible gravy train. You know! they show the inspector the only three jobs they have got anywhere near right and hide the bodging rest.
They want to see C&G certs, insurances, access equipment cards and all the H&S stuff. To be frank I was sick of paying for that corruptible gravy train. You know! they show the inspector the only three jobs they have got anywhere near right and hide the bodging rest.
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Adam W
I'm with the JIB.
I've purposefully stayed away from the kind of work where you have to pay £500 or so every year for the privilege of explaining to people what you've paid for only for them to tell you you should have bought something they've heard of instead.
Doing commercial & industrial work I've only every had one idiot insinuate I should be registered with the NICEIC, and that was more a case of him saying he couldn't actually do what he was telling me I was doing wrong because he wasn't registered with them. He was one of these middle aged office types who decided to take a step down to a "menial" job in his later years by putting on a builders' costume and calling himself one.
I've purposefully stayed away from the kind of work where you have to pay £500 or so every year for the privilege of explaining to people what you've paid for only for them to tell you you should have bought something they've heard of instead.
Doing commercial & industrial work I've only every had one idiot insinuate I should be registered with the NICEIC, and that was more a case of him saying he couldn't actually do what he was telling me I was doing wrong because he wasn't registered with them. He was one of these middle aged office types who decided to take a step down to a "menial" job in his later years by putting on a builders' costume and calling himself one.
David M
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Hey, hows it going in Spain? Just got back from a weeks holiday in Benidorm last week
I noticed on the news that the weather has been really really hot there today!
Just signed up with Stroma and waiting for assessment, reason, price was a major consideration but also as the customer service rep I have been dealing with was massively helpful. It is clear from my dealings so far that they don't accept anyone and have been quite on the ball in getting everything that they legally should from me. Lets see how it goes as this is my first scheme membership.
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andyt22
Fudgit and Scarper is me: Fudgit & Scarper - passionate about pipes - http://www.fudgitandscarper.co.uk
Also, for what it's worth I voted 'none' as I'm with the The Institution of Engineering and Technology - The IET - http://www.------.org
Andy
I have never been registered with any of these bodies.
I will never be registered with any of these bodies.
I will never be registered with any of these bodies.
Ditto me too.
Though I`ve been with ELECSA from inception of Part P and have absolutely no complaints about the assessors or office staff. All brill folks there I would recommend to anyone. I was not pleased they jumped into bed with NICEIC but that`s not the reason I left. It was price that`s all.
When Part P was laid before parliament MPs were told it would enhance safety and cost each electrical entity about £500 per 5 years. Yer right!
Slight problem with this vote, I'm Part P with ELECSA but also a Registered Member of the ECA ... However the vote won't let me pick two choices :-(
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Eryrwyn
I'm not a member with any electrical body as I'm a subcontractor through agencies , also haven't yet gained my 2394/95. Cheers
None, because I think the English system of registering Electricians id seriously flawed. I became a spakry back in Australia, where the standard of training esxceeds that of the UK. Further each electrician in LICENSED with the electricity and gas regulator. I was an 'A' grade electrician there. I sat additional training after my apprenticeship concluded to reach that. I further went on the become a Registered Electrical Contractor (R.E.C.), the only way an electrician can work for himself.
All I hear in the UK is cowboy this and cowboy that. You want to stamp them out then the Aussie approach is the only way.
The organisations you mention above are quite frankly a waste of time and money, Sure we have those in Australia too, but they are support bodied, offering assistance in running your business, not trying to be regulatory bodies.
Sorry if this winds up the UK locals, but its a fact. And for your information, there are no cowboy sparkies in Australia. They are all weeded out, any licenses they hold are revoked, and some even face prison time.
All I hear in the UK is cowboy this and cowboy that. You want to stamp them out then the Aussie approach is the only way.
The organisations you mention above are quite frankly a waste of time and money, Sure we have those in Australia too, but they are support bodied, offering assistance in running your business, not trying to be regulatory bodies.
Sorry if this winds up the UK locals, but its a fact. And for your information, there are no cowboy sparkies in Australia. They are all weeded out, any licenses they hold are revoked, and some even face prison time.
In Scotland our only options are NICEIC or Select I'm with Select but that wasn't an option.
Your survey should have the option to tick more than one box. Many ECA members will also be members of another scheme for Part P
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adpierce
I understand the need/desire for trade accreditation/membership but most if not all of these organisations are parasitic with fancy offices filled with people drinking coffee all day paid for by the likes of us.
UKAS are the Governments appointed body for accreditation and they would certify, for example Certsure (NICEIC/ELECSA) and this would be to the ISO/IEC 17000 series of standards.
I don't know why there can't be a single non profit making organisation for electrical trades with a single (albeit still subjective) standard.
I have just voted none, never have been , have held a JIB approved card for over 30 years now and do mostly commercial / light industrial work on a sub contract basis , if I do any domestic I stick to small non notafiable work.
Tex
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I do little bits of data work for a NICEIC contractor but voted None for myself. I got out of the trade when ISO9000 paperwork took up most of my week, after being with the GPO/Post Office Telephones/British Telecom/BT for 30 years and trained thoroughly on everything from a bulb to a lift, gas, water and hydraulics, and DC millivolts to 11Kv HV. Now I'm not allowed to install a s/o at home. The world's gone mad. Having a pocket full of tickets and being registered with the Hawks is all fine but who are you leaving on site while you price that other job?
Its a None vote for me, as an industrial electrician I don't need any of them. Basically a cowboy wouldn't last a day in industry, and any electrical work I do at home, just need an installation certificate sent to my councils building department where they keep it on file together with the copy of my certificate that they asked for.
Of course you can. You can do just about anything but install a new consumer unit or a whole new circuit, and a couple of items like work in the vanishingly small zones in a bathroom.
You could even do the more restricted tasks if you open a case with LABC. But there's a cost to that.
A most amusing thing to me were the threads on the IET forum site when (a much more rigorous) Part P was introduced more than a decade ago. There were a lot of life-time IET (IEE then) HND electronic engineers who found they couldn't legally do much electrical work in their own, or others, houses without getting the relavent City and Guilds Electrical Installation qualifictions and joining smashy and NICIECy.
The notification requirements have been very much diluted since then (not good, in my opinion).
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Deleted member 93172
Voted now, I am in the NICEIC was an AC and DI contractor, but now just DI, because of ill health and getting on a bit. To be frank and I know this might upset a few people, I am getting quite peed of with it all, when you find people who hold part P status obtained through, lets say bathroom and kitchen fitting are now changing CU's, rewiring houses etc. Its really mocking the sparks who have come up through proper apprenticeships and are fully trained, and they the bodies said the part P side of things would clear out the cowboy's how wrong can they be, so I am thinking none of the bodies are really there to protect our trade, anyway enough of my ranting's I am off to feed my horse now oops! I mean walk my dog. See yer all
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