Wiring Bulk Head Lights

[VincentW]

Apologies for what will seem a daft question to you guys - I am not an electrician, and have not got to grips with the different voltages on appliances.

Can someone tell me if these lights can be wired into the mains - these state 110v so if not would these usually be powered by a generator or transformer.

Again apologies for my lack of knowledge.
Vince

 

[Pete999]

If you stick 230V it will damage the light as well as being extremely dangerous, where did you get the fittings from? so DON'T connect them up to the 230v mains

 

[VincentW]

We have these in our warehouse - quite a large amount, so how would they be powered please.

 

[Taylortwocities]

so how would they be powered please.

Sorry to be obvious, but they need to be powered from a 110volt AC or DC supply!

If you only have UK (230VAC) mains then you'll need a transformer to reduce the voltage from 230 to 110 volts.

 

[VincentW]

I believe construction usually use 110v (I may be wrong), so where would use a bulkhead emergency light like this ? I think its an emergency light anyway - although it does not have a battery of any sort inside

 

[telectrix]

could be emergency lights powered from an external 110V source. e.g. a battery pack.

 

[VincentW]

could be emergency lights powered from an external 110V source. e.g. a battery pack.

Thats what I thought, however what makes them emergency lights as opposed to standard 110v bulkheads if they are powered from an external source surely a normal bulkhead would work the same

 

[hightower]

Has it got a capacitor inside? EDIT: A big one.

 

[telectrix]

if they are emergencies, on loss of the lighting circuit supply, the emergency supply would kick in. 110V would mean less batteries to supply them.

 

[Andy78]

Thats what I thought, however what makes them emergency lights as opposed to standard 110v bulkheads if they are powered from an external source surely a normal bulkhead would work the same

Some older emergency light systems have a central battery instead of batteries in the lights. Ones I have seen in the past have been the size of a tea chest if you are looking for one on site.

 

[Pete999]

We have these in our warehouse - quite a large amount, so how would they be powered please.

Vincent can you show us a picture of the packing and any instructions

 

[Taylortwocities]

tetctrix may have hit on it. Some emergeny lighting systems have a central (battery) supply for all emergency lights.
Standard voltages are 24, 50, 110 and 230Volt

They'll be powered by something that looks like this:

 

[VincentW]

Has it got a capacitor inside? EDIT: A big one.

As attached

 

[VincentW]

Vincent can you show us a picture of the packing and any instructions

The packing is just a plain brown box - ive sent over a pic of the inside PCB

 

[Andy78]

What was your intended use for these fittings Vincent, or are you just trying to find out what they are ?

 

[Midwest]

OP, I seem to remember you (or your company) purchased some ex stock from a defunct lighting company?

 

[VincentW]

What was your intended use for these fittings Vincent, or are you just trying to find out what they are ?

Just trying to find out what they are as we have 80 of them!

 

[VincentW]

OP, I seem to remember you (or your company) purchased some ex stock from a defunct lighting company?

Yeah correct - this is part of those lights - they are made by Glamox -they are still going - seem to be really specialist, providing to schools, healthcare, off-shore/marine industries

 

[Andy78]

What it seems you have then are 110V slave emergency bulkhead luminaires.

 

[Pete999]

The packing is just a plain brown box - ive sent over a pic of the inside PCB

What I was after was, what are the fittings described as? EM fittings, etc?

 

[VincentW]

What it seems you have then are 110V slave emergency bulkhead luminaires.

what exactly does that mean Andy when you say slave - do they need a "master" of some type to work?

 

[Andy78]

what exactly does that mean Andy when you say slave - do they need a "master" of some type to work?

Yes, the master would be a 110V central battery system that Tel alluded to in post 6. Slave fitting seems to be the common description for these. This differentiates them from self contained emergency lights which have the battery built in to the light fitting.

If you know the manufacturer is Glamox, you could call them and ask them for more info. Are there any product or serial numbers ?

 

[VincentW]

Yes, the master would be a 110V central battery system that Tel alluded to in post 6. Slave fitting seems to be the common description for these. This differentiates them from self contained emergency lights which have the battery built in to the light fitting.

If you know the manufacturer is Glamox, you could call them and ask them for more info. Are there any product or serial numbers ?

The number states GS/L3/SM/8/110/LSOH

 

[Andy78]

8 will mean 8W tube, 110 will be the voltage, LSOH means low smoke zero halogen and will probably pertain to the plastic casing the bulkhead is made from.

If you ring Glamox with the code they will tell you exactly what it is, but it's probably as said.

 

[VincentW]

You guys have been so much help, thank you it really is appreciated - what is a keen price from your experience to clear these - bear in mind we have 80 of the damned things

 

[telectrix]

i'll have the lot at £1 apiece ( inc. postage of course).

 

[VincentW]

i'll have the lot at £1 apiece ( inc. postage of course).

Guess I asked for that one! - looking around was thinking of £14 each plus p&p sound reasonable?

 

[telectrix]

they're worth whatever someone is willing to pay. £14 sounds reasonable, but it's a limited market. suggest you find out the cost new, then base on that. say 50% of new price.

 

[VincentW]

For those of you interested - this is about 2/3 of the stock we have

 

[VincentW]

And finally

 

[telectrix]

i bet your house will be the best xmas lit in your street this year.