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ceejay440
Only been signed up since 11th Jan '10 so not even made one payment yet. I have cancelled the direct debit following legal advice and written to Barclays informing of this and referring to S75 of the CCA which places them jointly liable. Sect 10.1.1 of the Access2T contract states the contract will be terminated if they go into liquidation (strange clause so maybe they were planning this) so if the contract is terminated I see no reason to keep paying. Obviously i am not out of pocket and not part way through training so not in the position where I would be looking for Barclays to assist with continuation training. Had a pleasant chat with Steve Baines from Newcareerskills who will offer similar training to access at a similar price but without the same finance deal. Thinking about it but will let the dust settle first. He aslo mentioned that the Skills Centre went bust last year so not sure how you pick one thats a guaranteed safe bet - I guess its the method of payment that needs careful selection to cater for situations such as this.
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It seems most likely that Access2 overreached themselves, gambling with our money. Their constant expansion on my visits there was reassuring to me considering the recession, now I feel like a complete fool. I agree the training was very good, and, yeah, the staff were great. It just the ******s up top who ruin everything in this country, yet I have a funny feeling they are sat on a beach laughing
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Hi there,
I am the 'Steve from New Career Skills' referred to by CeeJay in his post earlier.
We have been inundated by students from Access2 and are keen to help in any way we can, including recognising any previously completed training with them.
The important thing for any of you affected by this is to get advice (CAB/solicitor) and to make sure you are 'in the queue' if the receivers are able to pay out anything from the comapny assets.
Some students have been telling me that they have simply stopped their payments - if you do, make sure you also write to the loan company explaining why you have stopped (ie you are not receiving the services the agreement was made for) so that you don't get hit for any admin/non-payment charges...
If we can help in any way, feel free to contact me.
I am the 'Steve from New Career Skills' referred to by CeeJay in his post earlier.
We have been inundated by students from Access2 and are keen to help in any way we can, including recognising any previously completed training with them.
The important thing for any of you affected by this is to get advice (CAB/solicitor) and to make sure you are 'in the queue' if the receivers are able to pay out anything from the comapny assets.
Some students have been telling me that they have simply stopped their payments - if you do, make sure you also write to the loan company explaining why you have stopped (ie you are not receiving the services the agreement was made for) so that you don't get hit for any admin/non-payment charges...
If we can help in any way, feel free to contact me.
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Hi Everyone
I worked for Access2 trade on the paperwork side for the students , just wanted to comment that we are just as shocked as all the students that this has happened and we had no idea what was going on and we told everything was postive, we havent been paid and got the same rubbish letter with no explanation, but in agreement that i bet the big bosses are on a beach somewhere , i hope all the students get there money back and i know all the staff i worked with very much cared for the welfare of the students that put there hard earned cash into trying to better themselves, heres hoping we all get are money
I worked for Access2 trade on the paperwork side for the students , just wanted to comment that we are just as shocked as all the students that this has happened and we had no idea what was going on and we told everything was postive, we havent been paid and got the same rubbish letter with no explanation, but in agreement that i bet the big bosses are on a beach somewhere , i hope all the students get there money back and i know all the staff i worked with very much cared for the welfare of the students that put there hard earned cash into trying to better themselves, heres hoping we all get are money
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jjirmp
I was about to start week 3 with access to trade, the end of Feb and found out last night about the closure. The bank have been very helpful and are trying to move my course to another company, phew !!! The problem I have now is the booking agent for the travel lodge where I had booked to stay at the end of next month, they won't transfer my booking to another hotel or alternative date. They are most unhelpful and put the phone down on me when I phone to get help, where's customer sevice gone? Any advice????
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DurhamSparky
my qualification route!!
2382 17th edititon = £489
2391 Testing = £700
NVQ3 2356 = £900
PAT 2377 = £250
BTEC LEVEL 3 Diploma in electrical installation = £400
working for free with a housing association when on leave from teh royal navy doing reactive and Periodics plus minor installs also helped!!!
all paid for seperatly with local company's to me!!
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robbie-dixon
in a similar situation to dizz and doddy. paid for the whole lot up front, and only been to a couple of weeks proper training so far. sounds like those with barcleys might get something back or other training but im just left with a pile of books and not much else. just hoping the students arent too far down the pecking order when it comes to getting some money back from the administrators. mate of mine is training with olci in birmingham, he started before me and wish id gone with them as well now, had good reports so might see if they’ll let me carry on from where i am, think someone else on here has spoken them and got promising response. anyone have any advice on what to do next if you paid up front? or is it just wait and see (and worry!)
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Jurasic Spark
This is true and maybe its me being cynical (and hindsight is a wonderful thing) but the fact that the plasma TV and ipod display which were provided by the directors disappeared from the rest area a few days leading upto this is highly suspicious.
Oh, and don't forget the lady who supplied boots etc emptying her store cupboard a few hours before the announcement. Rumour has it that she is 1 of the directors sisters!!!
Surely it can't be a case of the fat cats getting their belongings out before the receiver gets in!!!
Not really fair when we told right at the end of the working day and have had no time to gather our personal belongings!!!!!
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I got a letter from the barclays partner finance
dont worry as you are not required to do anything at this stage. we will contact you shortly to confirm details of your new training provider. in themeantime,your finance agreement will continue as normal.
dont worry as you are not required to do anything at this stage. we will contact you shortly to confirm details of your new training provider. in themeantime,your finance agreement will continue as normal.
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pete3
I was due to take my 2382 on Monday, so i have enrolled with another company to take it at a cost of £141 for enrolment and exam fee. I will now be taking it on Tuesday next week, so at least this is one exam out of the way, assuming i pass i will then be looking elsewhere to complete the course.
I presume as i was paying by installments on my credit card that there will be no offer from Barlays about an alternative course provider as there has been no mention of people who were not with barvlays or had not paid in full i feel like i'm on my own but there must be others in a similar position. I think i might try olci or look at saving some money and doing each qualification seperately does anyone have any thoughts on which would be best?
I presume as i was paying by installments on my credit card that there will be no offer from Barlays about an alternative course provider as there has been no mention of people who were not with barvlays or had not paid in full i feel like i'm on my own but there must be others in a similar position. I think i might try olci or look at saving some money and doing each qualification seperately does anyone have any thoughts on which would be best?
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rookeryu67
Pete,doesnt the fact you used your credit card give you some proection? Like anything else you buy on a CC, for example I bought tickets for a fake gig and got my money back from visa, you want to look at that. And ex employee, you have to be allowed reentry to get your stuff, its the law, especially tools of your trade.
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Rookeryu,
We have offered our help to Barclays and are waiting to hear back from them...
Problem is that they are only responsible for those students that had loans through them. There are many more that either paid in cash up front or had a loan with the company direct (Student Finance I think they called it) and those will not gain from the help of Barclays.
Just hope they all find a way to get their course completed
We have offered our help to Barclays and are waiting to hear back from them...
Problem is that they are only responsible for those students that had loans through them. There are many more that either paid in cash up front or had a loan with the company direct (Student Finance I think they called it) and those will not gain from the help of Barclays.
Just hope they all find a way to get their course completed
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This is true and maybe its me being cynical (and hindsight is a wonderful thing) but the fact that the plasma TV and ipod display which were provided by the directors disappeared from the rest area a few days leading upto this is highly suspicious.
Oh, and don't forget the lady who supplied boots etc emptying her store cupboard a few hours before the announcement. Rumour has it that she is 1 of the directors sisters!!!
Surely it can't be a case of the fat cats getting their belongings out before the receiver gets in!!!
Not really fair when we told right at the end of the working day and have had no time to gather our personal belongings!!!!!
Yes that happened the day before we found out,and yes the lady who supplied the uniforms took her stuff on the wednesday she is relative of one of the directors and we where all asking questions what was going on with no answers, rumours where going round , but with the turnover that they got last yaer we all kept say how could it go soo wrong, is always the ones at the top who it doesnt effect and everyone else suffers,
Yes i agree they got there stuff out , well when u have a 1.6 million house why would u worry about anyone else,
We are not alllowed to go back to building which ive herd has round the clock security,
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tarlach
Having done the first 3 modules with A2T, and awaiting with others the outcome of Barclay's offers I just want to say that the contact throughout my training, with the the trainers and the facilities offered were first rate, and whilst I'm obviously concerned about finishing my training, I'm also very sorry for the staff who have lost their jobs, one months salary they won't be getting etc. They have done a superb job with my training and I'd like to know if and where they get further training posts as I'd happily complete my training with them, Many thanks Lads and Lasses
John
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Jurasic Spark
John, thanks for your kind words. The tutors and support staff took great pride in the knowlege that we were helping others to learn a new skill and hopefully go on to earn a living from it.
If anyone could provide backing I'm sure we could regroup in alternative premises and continue providing first class training. It just seems a crying shame that a brilliant team has been let down by wranglings at the top and bankers.
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tarlach
I tried to find a route in like that, had a local general builder who was happy for me to work with him whilst I was at college, unfortunately living in mid wales there are no colleges that offer it on a sandwich basis, distance learning was all I could find.
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ceejay440
I don't suppose we will ever get away from the old lags who think the only way of getting a qualification is the old fashioned traditional way as apposed to the alternatives like Access offered. I happen to have an HNC in electrical building services which I'm sure covers far more theory than the old fashioned apprentice sparky ever covers but just don't have a ticket to practically install hence my decision to follow the Access or similar route. Just because there is a "hard way" such as the college route doesn't mean it is the best or only way. There are many people out there who want to better themselves and retrain via courses such as Access albeit this option has gone ---- up. In the current economic climate these people should be encouraged for trying to better themselves and comments like those from SparkyPaul don't help the situation. I'm sure this post will attract criticism but this an emotive topic and those who have lost out do not need dragging down any further.
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Apologies if i didnt make it clear enough.
This thread was started by the forum owner, to inform all those that were enrolled on an A2T course, that they were no longer trading, and to hopefully assist anyone affected by this.
If you wish to spout off for whatever reason, start a new thread in the relevant forum.
BE WARNED. Any insults that are thrown about may get you banned.
I have enough to do without having to edit posts in this thread as well.
Keep it on topic.
This thread was started by the forum owner, to inform all those that were enrolled on an A2T course, that they were no longer trading, and to hopefully assist anyone affected by this.
If you wish to spout off for whatever reason, start a new thread in the relevant forum.
BE WARNED. Any insults that are thrown about may get you banned.
I have enough to do without having to edit posts in this thread as well.
Keep it on topic.
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pete3
No i've not heard anything. I have spoken to my credit card company and it looks quite hopeful for getting some money back and i have filled out the relevant forms / declarations and posted them off, so it will be about 2 weeks before i hear any more.
Does anyone know if barclays have come up with an alternative provider yet?
Pete
Does anyone know if barclays have come up with an alternative provider yet?
Pete
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ceejay440
Only just signed up and not made one payment yet to Barclays so wrote and told them to cancel everything and I would sort alternative out. They rang back and stated I was still contracted to them and should let them source alternative trainer. They stated that due to numbers of students would have to use several other providers but did not mention names. Not sure how long I should leave it before sourcing my own alternative.
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tarlach
I've had two letters from Barclay's, one two days after A2T closed and a second one last Friday, both saying they are in effect still working on the issue.
More concerning I've had one email and one phone call from another training provider saying they are following up my request for information about their courses. The email, well they might be able to find but my phone number ? I'm wondering if data has been passed / leaked, has anyone else had similar contacts ?
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doddy
diz31 im in the same boat. i rang consumer direct and they said i will have to wait to here from the insolvency bloke. they have given me the insolvency services number and if i dont hear anything from the insolvency bloke then write them a letter but i have no idea where to send the letter or who to address it to.
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samh
im the same boat,,, with access to trades im with barclays over the five years option 115.25 a month,,,, had NO CONTACT AT ALL FROM THEM, OR BARCLAY'S, i found out by ukplumbers forum, ive found a provider in my local area, so i would not have to pay for accom an travel when doing assesments, but barclays say
AND ONLY THEM,,,,anyway hope u all ave a gud un, cos im off 2 get absolutly plastered, ttfn
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Flo
I have been told that Access have up to 3 months to get the inslovency practitioner in. I worked for Access and it is very annoying because we only have up to 3 months to claim our lost wages. I have a suspicion that they will drag it out for the whole 3 months so they don't need to pay the staff.
I don't know if this will help but there is a group on facebook that have set up a petition asking the prime minister to intervene. The petition is for Advent Computer Training but it will also include Access2 as it is the same company.
Petition to: Request money back for students of the collapsed IT Firm Advent Consulting Ltd. | Number10.gov.uk
The petition has been accepted and they need 500 signatures.
I don't know if this will help but there is a group on facebook that have set up a petition asking the prime minister to intervene. The petition is for Advent Computer Training but it will also include Access2 as it is the same company.
Petition to: Request money back for students of the collapsed IT Firm Advent Consulting Ltd. | Number10.gov.uk
The petition has been accepted and they need 500 signatures.
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Shaggy
Having done my 17th edition at access2 one of the problems I am facing is for a reference, I tried to sign up to a agency the other day looking to apply for a electrician role, when I explained that I have done work experience through access2 where I also trained my 17th edition, however they would not be able to contact them for any reference or evidence to the qualifications and work experience I did there, they lost interest. So even us who completed the first 3 stages of the course are finding it real hard to move forward without a contactable reference for our qualifications.
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Flo
The only thing I can think of is to ask for your evidence. I'm not sure if this is still the case now that the firm has gone under but all evidence is supposed to be kept for a minimum of 2 years. This will list your qualifications and ticks off all the units completed. We kept this in a filing cabinet in the training centre and also on computer. If they would let me I would e-mail it to everyone but I am not allowed in the building and none of the phone numbers work anymore!
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Shaggy
Ask who?
like you say its impossible to contact anyone, I have tried and got no contact from anyone, the nearest I have to any updates in information has been right here in the forum.
Nobody has contacted me to say what's going on money wise or with any other situation, I paid the course in full without taking a loan so what happens there? I would settle for a part refund just to have the money to complete the 2391 elsewhere, but have heard nothing, I guess the Barleys Bank students will be all right, they will at least get offered another training provider, as for me, well I guess I get offered nothing.
Communications are dead, even having a single support line open to students to contact to find out whats going on, so we could request things like evidence of any work experience and course notes we completed with Access2, would of been a huge help, but from the first moment we got our emails that explained nothing, we have just been left in the dark.
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SteveManning
Hi everyone, I finished week 4 of the professional electricians course at ACCES2 T C the friday before it all colapsed.
That left me to find a way to sit the C&G2391 theory exam. I have just done the exam but C&G won't clarify whether or not a claim has been put forward on my behalf for the 2391 practical and the 2377. If any of you have worked for ACCESS perhaps you might know if the paper work is sent off immediately the week is complete or could it still be lost in a filing cabinet or computer drive somewhere inside the building at Hartlebury.
That left me to find a way to sit the C&G2391 theory exam. I have just done the exam but C&G won't clarify whether or not a claim has been put forward on my behalf for the 2391 practical and the 2377. If any of you have worked for ACCESS perhaps you might know if the paper work is sent off immediately the week is complete or could it still be lost in a filing cabinet or computer drive somewhere inside the building at Hartlebury.
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