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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[DPG]

Doing an EICR and found this. Newish build too at 3yrs old. Owner never had any paperwork prior to today and it’s going to be rented out.

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Novel way to use a cooker socket for a gas hob igniter. So the gas hob is on a 32a circuit of its own. Plug wired in 6mm

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Cooker/oven is on its own 16a radial with the fridge.

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The socket is fed in 6mm from the cooker circuit right? And the hob has a plug with a suitable fuse fitted?

 

[Raptor0014]

The socket is fed in 6mm from the cooker circuit right? And the hob has a plug with a suitable fuse fitted?

The socket is the cooker circuit. It’s had the outlet plate swapped for a single gang.

Yes the plug has a suitable fuse in.

Not saying it’s a problem. Just an odd way of doing it considering that’s how it was done from new.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Got to love that bus bar, but at least it was Hager and no lean.

 

[DPG]

The socket is the cooker circuit. It’s had the outlet plate swapped for a single gang.

Yes the plug has a suitable fuse in.

Not saying it’s a problem. Just an odd way of doing it considering that’s how it was done from new.

Yep, nothing wrong with that. All the houses on my 1970s built estate were the same, ie. wired with a 30A 6mm circuit to a single 13A socket in the kitchen. The option was given when buying the houses of whether you wanted a cooker switch fitting instead of the socket.

We have our fridge plugged into ours (cooker is gas).

 

[Dartlec]

And accessible.

Was there a screwed hatch in front of it…..

Is there still a screwed hatch in front of it???

Actually In the eaves which are almost large enough to stand up in, with a window at one end!

Luxury by my normal standards!

 

[telectrix]

And accessible.

Was there a screwed hatch in front of it…..

Is there still a screwed hatch in front of it???

if not, he's screwed.

 

[UKMeterman]

Seen in Newport City Center, shop refirb in progress... Where is the cut out for the cutout?

 

[telectrix]

not yet been cut outed.more words, ffs.

 

[Raptor0014]

Seen in Newport City Center, shop refirb in progress... Where is the cut out for the cutout?



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It’s a new safety feature. They block them in so they will know if someone has tampered with it.

 

[Raptor0014]

Nicely done…

Earthing still works if it’s in proximity, right?!….

 

[swaRRR]

Doing an EICR and found this. Newish build too at 3yrs old. Owner never had any paperwork prior to today and it’s going to be rented out.

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I think you'll find this is simply the 'ramp' system. You see how it's all B6's then a B32 on the end? The slanted bus bar is so the power can accumulate from left to right to run the higher powered appliance on the 32a breaker. We call it 'upramping' in the 6-week-wonder world.

 

[Taylortwocities]

spotted this on another place

Can’t think why though …

 

[Mike Johnson]

Only one:

 

[telectrix]

spotted this on another place

Can’t think why though …
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shows that Galileo was right. the earth is not the centre of the universe.

 

[Mike Johnson]

You have to wonder why the false ceiling was put in anyway, probably a public building that needed either reinforcing for it use above or fire rating, sound proofing, but that still does not explain the off centre light fitting, they went to the trouble of putting in a drop bulkhead to keep the rose exposed, but then why?????????

 

[pirate]

It'sh show you can shee the sheeling rowsh cos it'sh not obshcured by the shitty shandelier

 

[littlespark]

It'sh show you can shee the sheeling rowsh cos it'sh not obshcured by the shitty shandelier

That’s got to be the worst Sean Connery impression ever

 

[telectrix]

That’s got to be the worst Sean Connery impression ever

but at least it's bonded.

 

[Mike Johnson]

but at least it's bonded.

 

[Raptor0014]

This is a relic. Not sure what the RCD is supposed to be protecting as not a single thing in the property that I’ve tested so far will cause it to trip at 1 or 5x . Test button works ok though.

I’m aware now it’s a VOELCB and is considered obsolete. Thanks Tim, DPG, Westward and everyone else who replied.

Then I found this. First time I’ve seen a socket tried to be fixed with blue tack! Guessing they got annoyed and smashed the back box off as it wouldn’t hold.

 

[westward10]

It isn't an RCD.

 

[Raptor0014]

It isn't an RCD.

What is it? With the test button and no other discernible markings I just assumed it was an RCD.

 

[DPG]

What is it?

VOELCB

 

[timhoward]

This is a relic. Not sure what the RCD is supposed to be protecting as not a single thing in the property that I’ve tested so far will cause it to trip at 1 or 5x . Test button works ok though.

That needs changing mate. Sent you a PM with a video about them.

 

[Raptor0014]

VOELCB

Thank you. I was wondering how I’d now test it as I believe they’re supposed to trip at 50v.

 

[DPG]

Thank you. I was wondering how I’d now test it as I believe they’re supposed to trip at 50v.

I don't think I'd worry about testing it!

 

[timhoward]

Thank you. I was wondering how I’d now test it as I believe they’re supposed to trip at 50v.

Actually irrelevant as you (or someone) will be changing it very soon. TT install?

 

[Raptor0014]

Actually irrelevant as you (or someone) will be changing it very soon. TT install?

It is indeed.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Skip is what you need for a VOELCB. Obsolete many decades ago and, mostly wont work any more.
Or the Crabtree museum, most of the VOELCBs were made by Chilton.

Actually, skip is what you need for the fuseboard too!

 

[pc1966]

As you probably have found out by now, the VOELCB was the predecessor to the RCD but worked on a totally different basis and one that is now considered quite unreliable and long overdue for replacement.

However, the twist in that particular tale is some forms of EV open-PEN detection work on the same principle of observing a CPC to true Earth voltage!

 

[Raptor0014]

Thanks for all the input.

I knew of the VOELCB but hadn’t actually seen one in the wild. At least now I know why it wasn’t tripping on a RCD test.

 

[freddo]

Thank you. I was wondering how I’d now test it as I believe they’re supposed to trip at 50v.

Here is the correct test equipment:

 

[pc1966]

Thanks for all the input.

I knew of the VOELCB but hadn’t actually seen one in the wild. At least now I know why it wasn’t tripping on a RCD test.

You are way too young to have seen them when they were your only real option for TT systems. I think the first time I saw one was mid-70s and even then it was being replaced!

 

[Taylortwocities]

Blimey, they don't make em like that any more!

 

[Raptor0014]

You are way too young to have seen them when they were your only real option for TT systems. I think the first time I saw one was mid-70s and even then it was being replaced!

I is a spring chicken at 44.

 

[timhoward]

I think this is last edition that included them?

(It seems the 15th edition doesn't list them as protection for direct contact, but they are in other bits of it with note "Residual devices are preferred")

 

[pc1966]

Come now, lets do it properly:

 

[Taylortwocities]

You must be really old. I only go back this far....

Only 1s/6d though. Bargain

 

[westward10]

ASEE became incorporated as the IIExE, merged with the IIE who merged with the IEE who became the IET.

 

[SparkySy]

Sorry @westward10 I wanted to give an informative and funny as it is both!
Earliest regs I have a copy of is the 14th edition even though I didn't start till the 16th. All very interesting stuff!!