Is Part P a lot of nonsense?

[ipf]

Part P as a Building Reg isn't to blame, it's the parasitic profit orientated companies they allowed into our industry to administer it that's ALWAYS been the problem.

Those who without any consultation with long standing recognised bodies in the industry, or consideration for safety, (which was why they were created in the first place and laughably all beat the drum too, to this day) went on to irresponsibly invent/create the total nonsense title of ''Domestic Installer'' or as are better known as the Electrical Trainee. Not only did they allow these wannabes into the industry via the back door for purely monetary terms, they had the audacity to class time served and experienced fully qualified electricians with the SAME title!!

Example.
A friend, who contracts for me regularly and has been a qualified electrician for 35 years, has recently been undergoing inspection by the NICEIC....to become a 'Domestic Installer'. He feels aggrieved, having to pay the fee to be recognized as such and would take great exception to being tagged alongside Electrical Trainee's, having been self employed for the last 10 years and NAPIT assured until 2 years ago, when his own work load didn't warrant continued membership. He served his time at Hawkers/British Aero and is no mean spark.
Agree entirely with what you say. It just goes to show what sort of system they've created when a tradesman of such standing is offered his ''L'' plates.......for the fee, of course.

 

[Dic Penderyn]

As a practicing electrician you should own the latest regs book regardless of what the NIC say.

The new BS7671 comes out in January but wont come in to effect until July.

I've been buying the regs books for years and remember when you could download the amendments which in my opinion made a lot of sense in terms of reduced cost. Having to buy a new copy when a new amendment comes out presents the question: "as this become another money spinning racket that we have to pay for"? How often do they change the electricity at work act?

 

[dingledong]

Soon it will be every year !

 

[Guest77]

I've been buying the regs books for years and remember when you could download the amendments which in my opinion made a lot of sense in terms of reduced cost. Having to buy a new copy when a new amendment comes out presents the question: "as this become another money spinning racket that we have to pay for"? How often do they change the electricity at work act?

Twice I can think of, 1989 being the last time

 

[Engineer54]

I've been buying the regs books for years and remember when you could download the amendments which in my opinion made a lot of sense in terms of reduced cost. Having to buy a new copy when a new amendment comes out presents the question: "as this become another money spinning racket that we have to pay for"? How often do they change the electricity at work act?

Has the penny only just dropped for you then?? The whole industry has become a money making Scam for just about everybody, even to the point of including The City and Guilds Institute and other once respected bodies!!

 

[Geordie Spark]

well, i'm not bloody well buying another. i still have red one on the van. the green stays in the office ( well, i call it that. it's just a man space in the conservatory ).

You have a conservatory??!!!

That's a bit salubrious for a Scouser innit?? mg_smile:

 

[telectrix]

hang on while i look sulab..salub.oh sod it.. posh.

 

[Badged01]

You have a conservatory??!!!

Aah, be careful with your definitions!! What is considered a conservatory in Newcastle is no more than the loo at the bottom of the garden in deepest Liverpool. Some even have toilet paper rather then torn up strips of newspaper hanging off a nail. But Im guessing Tel isnt from the posh end of town .....

 

[Guest111]

The whole thing stinks it's all a con,same as 3mm of exposed metal on a probe,and lots of other stuff like working live.The other day I was doing a quick job for my old man and removed a socket front with the power on,he started going mad about it still being live,I ended up telling him that if I wasn't capable of doing what I was doing safely with the power on then I had no right to be doing it any way.It's not money making schemes that are needed these days it's PROPER training and education,only then will we have safety.

 

[trev]

You have a conservatory??!!!

That's a bit salubrious for a Scouser innit?? mg_smile:

Ee means a greenhoose Fatha.

 

[telectrix]

Ee means a greenhoose Fatha.

don't be silly a greenhouse would get nicked. it's not bolted down or otherwise secured.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Ee means a greenhoose Fatha.

Aye ...... aah c'n just see it noo Son ....... a cupplea hoops made from that blue placca pipe th' wattor board uses wi' some polythene sheet stretched across it.

Consovatry indeed !! ....... Where does he think he is .. Darras Hall??