Main bonding not in place?

[rm0210]

Hi all.

Just wondered what other sparky's view on where main bonding is not in place when you look at a job(no matter how small)

ive been told buy my part p assessor that if the main bonding is not in place you should say to the customer that this needs to be done before any electrical work is carried out.if the customer refuses to get this done,you should walk away from the job.

Ive looked through the regs(as much as i can cope with!)and the osg and have found nothing to back this up in black and white.

In the past if the bonding is not in place or bieng hidden behind kitchen funiture for example i have made the customer aware of this and made a note on the test report(minor works)or issued a failed pir or eic for the work i have done because they have refused to get the bonding done.

What does everybody else do?

Walkaway?
Advise?
Allow it in quote and do if accepted?

i understand how important main bonding is especially pme systems but surely you cant keep walking off jobs beacuse it is not in place!

 

[Dan]

Welcome to Electricians Forum | Electrical Advice Forum | An electrical forum for electricians in the UK!

Hello rm0210, welcome aboard www.electriciansforums.net. Stick around, I'm sure you'll like the place.

 

[acat]

Hi and welcome pleased you joined us.



Chris

 

[Des 56]

rm0210 Welcome

It comes under fundamental principles 131.8

 

[lamb]

You don't walk off a job because its not in place.

If carrying out a PIR you note the relevant deviation.

When carrying out any minor works or installation works you upgrade the bonding as part of the job.

Otherwise your certificate is not valid, because ADS or EEBADS has not been met.

 

[sparks1234]

Your assessor is correct.
You should advise the client this needs to be done before work commences.
You can look as long and hard as you like in the BRB but its a requirement, sometimes if the installation has a 6mm you can note it but not when there is none.
You are signing the certificate and you are responsible for the safety of the works at the end of the job so cover your own backside and tell the client the truth, its for their own good, you are the professional and should give the correct advise.

 

[Sintra]

Hi & welcome.

Additions & Alterations

There is no regulation in BS7671 that requires an existing installation to be upgraded to the current standard.
However the requirements for carrying out an addition or alteration must be met. p4 Before an addition or alteration can be made to an existing installation it must be ascertained that the earthing and bonding arrangements comply with the current version of BS7671 and any existing electrical equipment including the incoming supply is adequate for the proposed addition or alteration. 131.8
Before an addition or alteration to an installation is energised, inspection and testing must be carried out to ensure the requirements of BS 7671 have been met and an appropriate certificate must then be issued. 134.2.1, 610.6, 631.1
Any defects found in the existing installation must be recorded on the Electrical Installation Certificate or Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate. 633.2

 

[Mac]

Hi and welcome to the forum

 

[ezzzekiel]

whats bonding ?