NICEIC Certification Scheme Niceic Defined Approval for inspection and testing only

[JK Test]

I was wondering if anyone is in the same position as myself with regard to NICEIC defined approval.

I am based in northern Ireland and I only wish to undertake in initial verification and periodic inspections.

Has anyone got experience in the assessment process for this scope?

Cheers
Jonny

 

[guest119]

Some years ago i was associated with a company that did inspection and test only.
The niceic wouldnt take them on as they didnt install anything.
Maybe its different now? (£££)

Boydy

 

[Meggerman]

NAPIT (The National Association of Professional Inspectors and Testers) may be more appropriate for your business model.

 

[MDJ]

Some years ago i was associated with a company that did inspection and test only.
The niceic wouldnt take them on as they didnt install anything.
Maybe its different now? (£££)

Boydy

Still think that is the case M8, I mean they couldn't send an engineer around could they to inspect you are complying with the regs if you don't install.

 

[Plonker 3]

I have no idea if you can, but you can be sure if you were to phone them up and talk to them they will be able to help you.

 

[Meggerman]

Look at GasElec Franchise. They are test and inspection only and they are NICEIC AC.

 

[Risteard]

I know that they do permit it. Presumably the assessment centres around inspection and testing work only. Napit is pointless in the north of Ireland - no-one has heard of it and I think there is only one member.

 

[MDJ]

I know that they do permit it. Presumably the assessment centres around inspection and testing work only. Napit is pointless everywhere- no-one has heard of it and I think there is only one member.

Corrected that for you

 

[Risteard]

Corrected that for you

LOL. I'll leave that to others to decide.

 

[Meggerman]

Corrected that for you

Well at least on a NAPIT registered firm everyone is assessed unlike the flawed NICEIC QS system which assess one and the others who actually carry the work out go unchecked.

 

[MDJ]

Well at least on a NAPIT registered firm everyone is assessed unlike the flawed NICEIC QS system which assess one and the others who actually carry the work out go unchecked.

rollocks :smilewinkgrin:

 

[PEG]

I was at Elex yesterday,various representatives from the schemes were falling over each other to try and explain how they will "incorporate" the t&i into their fees,sorry,i mean rules...two gentlemen from one large popular scheme,didn't agree on how it should be set up,but both said it would probably require paying for...could have knocked me down with a feather,LOL

 

[R46yam]

Apologies for going off track but are there any disadvantages/advantages to joining any of the schemes run by various companies e.g. NAPIT, NICEIC, ELECSA

 

[MDJ]

Look at GasElec Franchise. They are test and inspection only and they are NICEIC AC.

No thanks :leaving:

 

[SPARTYKUS]

No one has pointed out to that you do not repeat not need to be, or have to be, a member of any scheme to do testing and inspection!

you need insurance (especially public indemnity), you need to be competent, you need calibrated equipment.


Thats it

 

[MDJ]

No one has pointed out to that you do not repeat not need to be, or have to be, a member of any scheme to do testing and inspection!

you need insurance (especially public indemnity), you need to be competant, you need calibrated equipment.


Thats it

Very true my friend, however we are all worn out because we have mentioned it 2,000,000 times now to the Electrical Trainee here lol

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Fair point m8!!!!!

 

[MDJ]

Well at least on a NAPIT registered firm everyone is assessed unlike the flawed NICEIC QS system which assess one and the others who actually carry the work out go unchecked.

what even the tea lady? regarding Crapit sorry Napit, I know of at least 2 firms who have not had an inspection in 2 years, very professional then, might as well just not bother, totally pointless really lol

 

[R46yam]

Although there is no requirement as you have pointed out, some local councils in my area will not give you any work unless you are a member of one of these schemes. I have recently been looking in to Constructionline as well because that is also a prerequisite to being awarded any work and in order to register with them you need to again be a member of one of these bodies.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Although there is no requirement as you have pointed out, some local councils in my area will not give you any work unless you are a member of one of these schemes. I have recently been looking in to Constructionline as well because that is also a prerequisite to being awarded any work and in order to register with them you need to again be a member of one of these bodies.

Depends what work you are looking for, but don't doubt what you are saying. I would venture to suggest there is some silly nonsense going on there!

 

[SPARKIED00]

NIC =============are waste of time ========keep your money in your pocket join someone else?

 

[Engineer54]

what even the tea lady? regarding Crapit sorry Napit, I know of at least 2 firms who have not had an inspection in 2 years, very professional then, might as well just not bother, totally pointless really lol

I thought that's what the majority of fully qualified/experienced electricians wanted from these Scam Providers, ....Inspections every 3 to 5 years and NOT costly annual inspections??

To be honest, none of them are of any benefit to the industry, they are all getting rich out of solving a problem that was never there in the first place, in fact they have Caused an even bigger problem by their very existence

....Time to Kick them all into touch and be done with them!! lol!!

 

[Zeno]

The failing Schemes are living on borrowed time, yes non assessment by NAPIT has been going on for years, you pay for assessment but you never get one for years, highly profitable. You should be very careful about your insurance, give them a call and check that it still valid, best to check direct with Hiscox to get a straight answer . It is more like a protection racket, join a Scheme or you have to pay LABC a fortune.

 

[Engineer54]

The failing Schemes are living on borrowed time, yes non assessment by NAPIT has been going on for years, you pay for assessment but you never get one for years, highly profitable. You should be very careful about your insurance, give them a call and check that it still valid, best to check direct with Hiscox to get a straight answer . It is more like a protection racket, join a Scheme or you have to pay LABC a fortune.

It IS a protection racket, a very lucrative racket it is too. Unfortunately the protection is paper based and paper thin. Alas you will only find that out, if or when something goes wrong. Suddenly it's nothing really to do with them and will do their level best, to keep the member and/or the members customer at arms length. Unless they are legally Forced into a corner, but often even then, it's more of a mediation role they want to play, rather than any effective decision making role!!