Simple question on running cable along a wall?

[Spark2be]

The walls in my house are plastered block work. If I were to add a spurred socket that will be approx 5m from the original is it possible to clip the cable to the wall? I don't want to chase it in and the misus is not keep on trunking. I'm sure that the plaster will just break away with clips??

 

[Geordie Spark]

The new wiring could just go under the floorboards though, which is simpler - join 2 sets of cables in the terminals in the old socket and "splice" the other 2 together behind it.

.......... and if it's a concrete floor ???

 

[Silly Sausage]

.......... and if it's a concrete floor ???

This is a nice house here, not some concrete box in Gateshead.

 

[Geordie Spark]

This is a nice house here, not some concrete box in Gateshead.

rrr: :30:

 

[Geordie Spark]

The experts can even tell you how to rewire your house, no testing or notification required....

You've given me an idea

I think I'll apply for a job there to fill my time in now I'm retired.

 

[ipf]

.......... and if it's a concrete floor ???

Clip along that ?

 

[Geordie Spark]

Clip along that ?

Aall clip yer lugs lad !!! :angry_smile: :furious3: :boxing_smiley: :wink_smile:

 

[Silly Sausage]

Aall clip yer lugs lad !!! :angry_smile: :furious3: :boxing_smiley: :wink_smile:

And in the Queen's that translates as...???

 

[Geordie Spark]

And in the Queen's that translates as...???

I shall box your ears my good fellow.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I shall box your ears my good fellow.

I am very much obliged for your translation of that rough North Eastern barbarism of the English.
As a thanks, you are more than welcome to come to my club in Manchester, I'll be sure to order some of that 'Newcastle Brown' that you chaps partake in up in the 'Wilds'

 

[Adam W]

.......... and if it's a concrete floor ???

Read the title of the thread - this is a SIMPLE question. Throwing spanners in the works such as making it a concrete floor would be over-complicating matters.

 

[Guitarist]

Mate I have not meant to offend you by asking for advice on clips. If I had chance at an apprentiship I would go for it, I don't so I have to learn best I can.

Spark2be, does this mean that you are merely taking a college course and then intend to set-up as an electrician simply "having a go" and "learning the best you can"? I would strongly recommend against this.

 

[Spark2be]

No that is not the case. I am about to finish my level 2 and I have enrolled for my level 3 and the 17th ed regs course both starting in September. When I have completed the first year of level 3 I will be looking to gain employment in the industry so I can finish my level 3 and gain my NVQ, I am not if the AM2 will be incorporated into the NVQ yet. Problem I have is that I have a full time job with responsibilities (house, kids etc) and so can't afford to be an apprentice unless I would be earning at least £10 ph.

I have been through school got myself a degree but the thaught of spending the rest of my life in an office scares me ****less!! I wish I had done this straight from school to be honest.

 

[DPG]

I reckon give the guy a break. He's trying hard here and I reckon the original question about cable clips not gripping in plaster was a fair one. Hence the availability of pin plugs. Daz

 

[drew35]

Or save on the pritt stick and simply poke the cable under the carpet and use the carpet gripper to hold it in place.......

 

[Geordie Spark]

I am very much obliged for your translation of that rough North Eastern barbarism of the English.
As a thanks, you are more than welcome to come to my club in Manchester, I'll be sure to order some of that 'Newcastle Brown' that you chaps partake in up in the 'Wilds'

Not since they closed the Newcastle Brewery & started brewing in in Yorkshire I don't !!! :angry_smile:

 

[Adam W]

Kids or no kids, £10ph for a 'mate' is rather a tall order - remember work is in short supply and career changees with a technical certificate but no experience are plentiful - you only have to look at how many people there are on this forum offering to work for free to see that.
I had to leave my office job to work in a restaurant because they wouldn't let me have time off for college, then I managed to get work as a 'mate' for £7.50ph, but that was before the credit crunch - now every man and his dog wants to become an electrician.

Put yourself in an employer's shoes - would you employ some 17 year old kid for cheap who you can train up the way you want but who you have to closely supervise, you for £10ph who has their own transport and can use their initiative but still needs guidance, or someone who can do the same as you but for £7.50ph, possibly someone who even has experience already and will need less supervision?
That's a difference of around £20 a day, or £100 a week for employing someone who hasn't got kids to feed.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but you're definitely at a disadvantage.

 

[Des 56]

I am very much obliged for your translation of that rough North Eastern barbarism of the English.
As a thanks, you are more than welcome to come to my club in Manchester, I'll be sure to order some of that 'Newcastle Brown' that you chaps partake in up in the 'Wilds'

I am more than pleased that they brew far more than they can consume themselves,because even in the wilds of Wales,the fine liquid has spread its tentacles

 

[sedgy34]

The walls in my house are plastered block work. If I were to add a spurred socket that will be approx 5m from the original is it possible to clip the cable to the wall? I don't want to chase it in and the misus is not keep on trunking. I'm sure that the plaster will just break away with clips??

iF YOUR WALLS ARE DABBED I WOULD ROD IT QUITE EASY, NO clips, ****ty trunking etc

 

[mickys86]

Kids or no kids, £10ph for a 'mate' is rather a tall order - remember work is in short supply and career changees with a technical certificate but no experience are plentiful - you only have to look at how many people there are on this forum offering to work for free to see that.
I had to leave my office job to work in a restaurant because they wouldn't let me have time off for college, then I managed to get work as a 'mate' for £7.50ph, but that was before the credit crunch - now every man and his dog wants to become an electrician.

Put yourself in an employer's shoes - would you employ some 17 year old kid for cheap who you can train up the way you want but who you have to closely supervise, you for £10ph who has their own transport and can use their initiative but still needs guidance, or someone who can do the same as you but for £7.50ph, possibly someone who even has experience already and will need less supervision?
That's a difference of around £20 a day, or £100 a week for employing someone who hasn't got kids to feed.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but you're definitely at a disadvantage.

I've worked seven days a week for 2 and a half yrs, having only a day off when I'm tired or want to do something, just to have an apprenticeship so i can get the experience I need. Im not a hero, I just wanted it enough to do it

 

[highspark]

Why not just up floor boards either side and have a small chase either side to new and existing socket. Plater over with the good old one coat white stuff. Works for me everytime! No eed to surface mount or clip!

 

[sedgy34]

I've worked seven days a week for 2 and a half yrs, having only a day off when I'm tired or want to do something, just to have an apprenticeship so i can get the experience I need. Im not a hero, I just wanted it enough to do it

experience is invaluable,i trained a an apprentice up he is 17 yrs old knows alot now hes going to be a good spark he also does s,y plan heating,under floor also a mix of both there are loads of sparks who cant do this.

 

[Knobhead]

No that is not the case. I am about to finish my level 2 and I have enrolled for my level 3 and the 17th ed regs course both starting in September. When I have completed the first year of level 3 I will be looking to gain employment in the industry so I can finish my level 3 and gain my NVQ, I am not if the AM2 will be incorporated into the NVQ yet. Problem I have is that I have a full time job with responsibilities (house, kids etc) and so can't afford to be an apprentice unless I would be earning at least £10 ph.

I have been through school got myself a degree but the thaught of spending the rest of my life in an office scares me ****less!! I wish I had done this straight from school to be honest.

You’ll be safer in an office. From what I’ve seen of you so far I wouldn’t let you near a torch battery.

Sorry if I’m harsh, but whatever courses you’ve been on you don’t seem to have learnt anything.

As for £10 per hour with your experience, dream on. Find an office job. The Royal Bank of Scotland could be a good place to start, they don’t care how big a mess you make of things.

 

[Spark2be]

No need to apologise Tony you seem like a really nice guy, the kind of nice guy that would be behind a learner driver beeping him until he causes an accident.

Thanks for the helpful posts, as Highspark and a few others have suggested I am going to chase down and lay the cable underneath the floorboards. Do it properly, start as I mean to go on.

The one and only reason I joined this board was to get advice and use it as a learning tool. I dont really want to get involved in petty jibes like me old mucker Tony seems to be into.

 

[Octopus]

No need to apologise Tony you seem like a really nice guy, the kind of nice guy that would be behind a learner driver beeping him until he causes an accident.

Thanks for the helpful posts, as Highspark and a few others have suggested I am going to chase down and lay the cable underneath the floorboards. Do it properly, start as I mean to go on.

The one and only reason I joined this board was to get advice and use it as a learning tool. I dont really want to get involved in petty jibes like me old mucker Tony seems to be into.

Fair do's - a tip for you, many people start some pretty daft threads - people who start threads with a problem, plus an idea of how to solve it sensibly generally get better input.

 

[Spark2be]

Thanks Murdoch even though I dont think the reason for me starting this thread was a silly one, I will take your advice on board and the next time I ask a 'silly' question (which I probably will) I will also suggest a way of solving it. I am more than willing to bet that I get the same response from some people.

 

[Octopus]

Thanks Murdoch even though I dont think the reason for me starting this thread was a silly one, I will take your advice on board and the next time I ask a 'silly' question (which I probably will) I will also suggest a way of solving it. I am more than willing to bet that I get the same response from some people.

there is a "thanks" button, bottom left of each thread, to show your appreciation.!!

 

[Adam W]

Fair do's - a tip for you, many people start some pretty daft threads - people who start threads with a problem, plus an idea of how to solve it sensibly generally get better input.

Conversely I find the worst threads are the ones where someone has guessed the solution and asked how to put that into practice, but won't say what the problem is, then dribbles extra bits of information in as the thread progresses. In most cases there is a much simpler and more effective solution to the one in the question.

 

[Spark2be]

There ya go.....

 

[Guitarist]

Spark2be, please forgive us. We get a lot of posts on here from people who don't know what they are doing, have no test gear and just want to avoid getting a qualified electrician in to save a few pounds.
You say that you have a degree? I would respectfully suggest that you persue a career in whatever it is you have gained that degree in as your lack of basic knowledge really worries me.