suitable j/box in loft are

[driverman]

Not a lot to day so yet another question. Got several (about 10) 1.mm lighting cables to join together in a loft space which has about 300mm + loft insulation.
Years ago I would of used a J701 j/box with chocs blocks. Anything better on the market now? Would you guys fix the j/box above the joist level and the remove the insulation so as not on top but still some underneath?

 

[chesneyhawkes]

Looks neat, thanks. Basically a few feeds L+N's + a couple of 3 core sw/wires + several cables to lights. Are those boxes pre-wired then? Would that restrict my wiring options as opposed to starting from scratch?

Yes they are pre wired, i have found no restrictions with them. The only downside being that with the short connections on the push fit terminals, if the wires are connected it is hard to tell if one is loose, just takes a little extra checking.

 

[Tidy Max]

As Dave has said, in its current form it would not comply as there are no cable grips!

I clip the cables once the box is secured.

Although i have been guilty of leaving jbs loose(ish) in certain situations. I only use glands with Wiska boxes when they are either on show or in a potentially damp environment. Because i am a tight arse!

 

[Simonslimline]

[h=1]Surewire Pre-wired Maintenance Free Lighting Junction Boxes[/h]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEohgpUL0R4

 

[zap]

Assuming you are connecting multiple lighting circuits, i have used surewire boxes and they look very neat. Surewire - Pre-wired Maintenance Free Lighting Junction Boxes

Interesting colours in bottom cable 2nd from right... alright, not exactly helpful, but you must admit, observant :sorcerer:

 

[Tidy Max]

Interesting colours in bottom cable 2nd from right... alright, not exactly helpful, but you must admit, observant :sorcerer:

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They are the correct colours.

The terminal is labelled S i assume for switch.

You do use twin brown don't you zap

 

[Simonslimline]

Interesting colours in bottom cable 2nd from right... alright, not exactly helpful, but you must admit, observant :sorcerer:

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You can get twin brown cable i believe. Saves sleeving at switch drops i guess.

 

[zap]

They are the correct colours.

The terminal is labelled S i assume for switch.

You do use twin brown don't you zap

Only in singles ... and so much for observation...

 

[7029 dave]

Interesting colours in bottom cable 2nd from right... alright, not exactly helpful, but you must admit, observant :sorcerer:

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More products have not seen.

 

[zap]

You can get twin brown cable i believe. Saves sleeving at switch drops i guess.

Good point but I've not come across it

 

[Tidy Max]

Good point but I've not come across it

It's crap mate. I used it on a rewire then spent 20 minutes identifying the seperate conductors. At least with standard brn/blu you know which is your switch feed and return.

Nice idea but pointless. I am probably going to end up using it as standard t and e and sleeving one of the browns blue lol

 

[armbands0]

I did one recently, used a 2g pattress box and blank front, filled with Wagos, clipped each cable to joist.

 

[shanky887614]

It's crap mate. I used it on a rewire then spent 20 minutes identifying the seperate conductors. At least with standard brn/blu you know which is your switch feed and return.

Nice idea but pointless. I am probably going to end up using it as standard t and e and sleeving one of the browns blue lol

why did it take you a long time to find out?

there is writing on the sheath no? top is one bottom is two simples

 

[Tidy Max]

why did it take you a long time to find out?

there is writing on the sheath no? top is one bottom is two simples

Really?!?!? What a dick!

 

[davesparks]

Really?!?!? What a dick!

For once he is actually making a good point!

The sheath has makers name etc embossed on it, if you have that side upwards and always use the core on the left for L and right for S/L then it makes sence

 

[VoltzElectrical]

For once he is actually making a good point!

The sheath has makers name etc embossed on it, if you have that side upwards and always use the core on the left for L and right for S/L then it makes sence

Does it?

 

[davesparks]

Does it?

Yes, to comply with British standards/basec rules the sheath has to have certain information embossed on it.

If it does not then basec will be very interested in it and your installation could be pretty damned dangerous

 

[ayjay]

looks to me that too many "sparks" have too much time on their hands inluding me btw
use screwitts mate
:ack2r replace the cable?
its not rocket science
3 pages about how to join cables in a roof-------

 

[Tidy Max]

What are screwits? Not those awful twist on connectors?!

 

[shanky887614]

What are screwits? Not those awful twist on connectors?!

yes they are and they should be banned

 

[davesparks]

Scruits were banned years ago! You haven't been able to get then for years.

It's the even worse American fire nuts that have now appeared over here!