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Thanks for sharing number 7 mate, it's a picture I really didn't need painting. I've now got an image in my head of a fat bloke in shorts drinking rough cider in a garden
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Well if you wanted to find something good about the poll tax it's that its implementation was the downfall of Thatcher.
Why should anyone who doesn't own a home or rent a home pay anything?
Yes, he did.even 4 year olds for example? they put things in the bin. Like Grandad's trainers
So would you be happy if your son/daughter/wife was employed on an exploitative zero hours contract and was reliant on top ups from the benefit system to make ends meet?
It's supporting a business after all
Gasp, Gasp and double Gasp, surely and I am shaking with disbelief now terrance, your not, surely not, Gasp defending the ------Poll Tax????? Gasp
even 5 year olds for example? they put things in the bin.
Sadly most people I talk to don't understand the significance of both the deficit, structural debt and how large our overall debt is. Also in all the campaigning so far it is barely recognised as a problem. Unless we produce a surplus and soon, my childrens futures are screwed. I do laugh at some of the proposed solutions though. i.e. Spend more money on "investments" and tax the rich..... Like there are enough rich people who won't see that comingThe UK racked up a deficit of 5.7 per cent of gross domestic product last year while the national debt soared to 89.4 per cent of national income, according to Eurostat. Cyprus and Spain were the only countries in the European Union to borrow more as a proportion of national income - underlining the British government's abject failure to live within its means.
I do laugh at some of the proposed solutions though. i.e. Spend more money on "investments" and tax the rich.....
Sorry for spelling mistakes but I can not spell
The problem with government is they are like buying a new tool you spend weeks reading about them and choosing what you think is the best one then for the first day or so you think it's great and love it. Then after the honeymoon period is over you realise that your just kidding yourself and in reality this is none better than the tool you used before in fact the old one was more comfortable to use but by now it's too late to go back because now the apprentice has your old tool. Then every day you find more reasons you want your old one back so the next chance you get you buy the upgrade to your old tool but no matter what it's never going to be your old tool. The only way we are ever going to get what we want in government is to get the best we can and then make it ours by moulding it to what we want just as we do with everything else we have.
There's nothing like a good, well thought through & reasoned reply.
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He does not have the Majority to upset his backbenchers. His majority was higher last time round as he had the backup of well behaved Lib Dems. I will give it until next xmas and he will find himself in a John Major position.Fingers crossed Cameron now has the cojones to stamp on the more extreme elements of his party and make decisions in the best interests of the country rather than simply to keep the backbenchers happy...lest he make the mistakes of John Major and wind up with various knives in the back....One area where Thatcher got it right...keep the mice in line or they start squeaking amongst themselves.....
He is party leader so needs to show leadership and put his foot down - my way or the highway, as up till now he has let the backbenchers call the tune, even when the tune has been off key....
Fair enough have a referendum on europe...but stamp on the half truths etc and show just how much trade goes both ways, the benefits we get (free movement, ability to work in any EU nation without a visa, preferential access to markets, common standards which then cut down the cost of stuff (bigger market, lower unit cost) along with the truth on what it costs compared to what money it brings in, and how much we would gain or lose financially (I'm betting on a loss). Plus when the Americans reckon we are better off in Europe...that says something...
What I'd like to see from this government - movement to a federal UK, each part with its own parliament, sort of like Australia but not...
Which would then answer the West Lothian question, English issues dealt with only by English MPs, ditto for Scotland, Wales, NI. I think it would also remove a lot of ill feeling....each country raises and spends its own income but contributes a set amount per person to the "federal govt" to cover defence, passports etc etc) devolve the rest to each "state" - health, education, welfare, speed limits.
Though quite where an English Parliament would be, given they want to decant MPs from westminster for several years to do major repairwork is another question...
I must have blinked at the same time, what have I missed ? - Surely the Tories are not going to commit suicide over Europe (again)...Fiver says leadership challenge within a year...he's blinked regards Europe referendum. ...blood in the water....my money is on Boris to stick the knife in first...
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