strict sites

[Dean Williams]

has anyone worked on really strict sites

im currently testing on the largest site ive ever worked on in Runcorn, where 'whistleblowers' are rewarded with offers of flat screen tellies, meal vouchers etc. There's been 2 strikes so far...

 

[telectrix]

what frequency's this planet rock? can't get real XS except in the van within 30 miles of manc. worst station imaginable is radio 1.

 

[shanky887614]

what frequency's this planet rock? can't get real XS except in the van within 30 miles of manc. worst station imaginable is radio 1.

105.2 i think

 

[telectrix]

i'll give that a try. real xs is 106.1. low power though. it struggles to get out of manc. a bit like archy.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Well when I started out on sites for Cowlin's (now Balfour's) didn't need any cards. Now need a card for every bleeding' thing!
One site I worked on had the 'glasses on at all times, no stepladders only podiums' type rules, but as has been stated, it's 'elf and safety' when it suits. The nearer the end of the job, the more a blind eye gets turned. When decor starts to get damaged, suddenly steps are permissible.

I've been threatened to be thrown off site for not wearing a hi-viz vest when working in a 2'x2' cupboard terminating a distribution board. My answer was 'it's not an effing uniform!' (wasn't accepted!).

I tend to play them at their own game and report everything that I see or experience as dangerous under their 'near-miss' policy (they hate this as it messes with their statistics but they have to do it as it's their policy'. I will give an example.

A student accommodation build of 5 blocks. No steps, glasses and gloves at all times, etc.. you know the score...

We had a pallet of light fittings stored outside block 3, no problem. Scaffolders stripping planks and tubes on 4th floor and stacking boards on end against the toe board directly above the entrance to the building.

I walk out of the block and suddenly two soaking wet full scaffolding planks push the unsecured toe boards out and slip out of the gap and come crashing down into the crates of light fittings right beside where I am standing. If I was two feet nearer, or 30 seconds later leaving the building, they could have crashed into me, and believe me, from 4 floors up, no hard hat would have saved me.

I reported it and the scaffolder's but holes were hauled over the coals, with reports sent to my company's management and higher up Balfour's too. I was sick and tired of BS Health and Safety, so when this happened, I took it all the way and made sure they took REAL H&S seriously. After that, secure access was provided to each block from falling objects.

One of my biggest hates on sites is where people performing tasks such as grinding, cutting, drilling, firing Hilti guns etc.. are forced to wear PPE, but no thought is given to the poor guys working a few feet away who are subjected to the same noise, dust, fright (of undisclosed 'gun' fire).

Once again, up stairs into the office and make a formal complaint.

You have to play the Health and Safety card to the nth degree with these guys. They think that a hard hat and high viz vest is where it starts and ends, but what about REAL Health and Safety? what about MY EARS, MY NERVES, MY LUNGS etc..? It's no good the guy doing the work being protected if the chap two feet away is suffering.

These jobsworths need to be educated in what REAL H&S means and that includes the impact on what other people's actions have on others, not just on the one's doing the tasks.

 

[Guest111]

Well when I started out on sites for Cowlin's (now Balfour's) didn't need any cards. Now need a card for every bleeding' thing!

Things have tightened up everywhere to a ridiculous point. one site I worked on had the 'glasses on at all times, no stepladders only podiums' type rules, but as had been stated, it's 'elf and safety' when it suits. The nearer the end of the job, the more a blind eye gets turned. When decor starts to get damaged, suddenly steps are permissible.

I've been threatened to be thrown off site for not wearing a hi-viz vest when working in a 2'x2' cupboard terminating a distribution board. My answer was 'it's not an effing uniform!' (wasn't accepted!).

I tend to play them at their own game and report everything that I see or experience as dangerous under their 'near-miss' policy (they hate this as it messes with their statistics but they have to do it as it's their policy'. I will give an example.

A student accommodation build of 5 blocks. No steps, glasses and gloves at all times, etc.. you know the score...

We had a pallet of light fittings stored outside block 3, no problem. Scaffolders stripping planks and tubes on 4th floor and stacking boards on end against the toe board directly above the entrance to the building.

I walk out of the block and suddenly two soaking wet full scaffolding planks push the unsecured toe boards out and slip out of the gap and come crashing down into the crates of light fittings right beside where I am standing. If I was two feet nearer, or 30 seconds later leaving the building, they could have crashed into me, and believe me, from 4 floors up, no hard hat would have saved me.

I reported it and the scaffolder's but holes were hauled over the coals, with reports sent to my company's management and higher up Balfour's too. I was sick and tired of BS Health and Safety, so when this happened, I took it all the way and made sure they took REAL H&S seriously. After that, secure access was provided to each block from falling objects.

One of my biggest hates on sites is where people performing tasks such as grinding, cutting, drilling, firing Hilti guns etc.. are forced to wear PPE, but no thought is given to the poor guts working a few feet away who are subjected to the same noise, dust, fright (of undisclosed 'gun' fire).

Once again, up stairs into the office and make a formal complaint.

You have to play the Health and Safety card to the nth degree with these guys. They think that a hard hat and high viz vest is where it starts and ends, but what about REAL Health and Safety? what about MY EARS, MY NERVES, MY LUNGS etc..? It's no good the guy doing the work being protected if the chap two feet away is suffering.

These jobsworths need to be educated in what REAL H&S means and that includes the impact on what other people's actions have on others, not just on the one's doing the tasks.

Exactly,we had a guy come to the farm recently to discuss the AD plant we're having made,he got out of his car and put his hiviz and hard hat on, we have a farm not a building site I had my viz on but no hard hat,he looked shocked when I told him he didn't need his on either.I looked up at the clear sky above us and said "if that falls I doubt the hat will do you much good",he just nodded and agreed,common sense.

 

[rapparee]

Well when I started out on sites for Cowlin's (now Balfour's) didn't need any cards. Now need a card for every bleeding' thing!
One site I worked on had the 'glasses on at all times, no stepladders only podiums' type rules, but as has been stated, it's 'elf and safety' when it suits. The nearer the end of the job, the more a blind eye gets turned. When decor starts to get damaged, suddenly steps are permissible.

I've been threatened to be thrown off site for not wearing a hi-viz vest when working in a 2'x2' cupboard terminating a distribution board. My answer was 'it's not an effing uniform!' (wasn't accepted!).

I tend to play them at their own game and report everything that I see or experience as dangerous under their 'near-miss' policy (they hate this as it messes with their statistics but they have to do it as it's their policy'. I will give an example.

A student accommodation build of 5 blocks. No steps, glasses and gloves at all times, etc.. you know the score...

We had a pallet of light fittings stored outside block 3, no problem. Scaffolders stripping planks and tubes on 4th floor and stacking boards on end against the toe board directly above the entrance to the building.

I walk out of the block and suddenly two soaking wet full scaffolding planks push the unsecured toe boards out and slip out of the gap and come crashing down into the crates of light fittings right beside where I am standing. If I was two feet nearer, or 30 seconds later leaving the building, they could have crashed into me, and believe me, from 4 floors up, no hard hat would have saved me.

I reported it and the scaffolder's but holes were hauled over the coals, with reports sent to my company's management and higher up Balfour's too. I was sick and tired of BS Health and Safety, so when this happened, I took it all the way and made sure they took REAL H&S seriously. After that, secure access was provided to each block from falling objects.

One of my biggest hates on sites is where people performing tasks such as grinding, cutting, drilling, firing Hilti guns etc.. are forced to wear PPE, but no thought is given to the poor guys working a few feet away who are subjected to the same noise, dust, fright (of undisclosed 'gun' fire).

Once again, up stairs into the office and make a formal complaint.

You have to play the Health and Safety card to the nth degree with these guys. They think that a hard hat and high viz vest is where it starts and ends, but what about REAL Health and Safety? what about MY EARS, MY NERVES, MY LUNGS etc..? It's no good the guy doing the work being protected if the chap two feet away is suffering.

These jobsworths need to be educated in what REAL H&S means and that includes the impact on what other people's actions have on others, not just on the one's doing the tasks.

If i was to report a fellow worker i would earn a reptutation as a tout, which is a great disgrace to have hanging over you

 

[trev]

Subbing for the council on a rewire project, boots, hi viz mandatory. Nothing else. H&S man used to come round a couple of times a week, he was actually as really good bloke, I asked him why we were required to wear the hi viz but no one seemed to care about the potential hearing damage from chasing or respiratory problems through the dust kicked up.
He shrugged his shoulders and told me that he didn't make the rules.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I work for the council now, on street lighting where we use cherry pickers on vans. Now we regularly get picked up on not wearing hard hats (go figure????) but no-one ever checks on the fact that not one of us ever wears an effing harness!

Now I ask you, which one of the above mentioned is more important? But which one is more visible to the passing H&S wonder boy jobs worth?

These guys need to go on a PROPER H&S course, and pursue the desired result of a properly employed H&S policy, not just ensuring that people are wearing a uniform of hat, jacket, gloves and glasses whilst ignoring the REAL risks.

 

[rapparee]

I work for the council now, on street lighting where we use cherry pickers on vans. Now we regularly get picked up on not wearing hard hats (go figure????) but no-one ever checks on the fact that not one of us ever wears an effing harness!

Now I ask you, which one of the above mentioned is more important? But which one is more visible to the passing H&S wonder boy jobs worth?

These guys need to go on a PROPER H&S course, and pursue the desired result of a properly employed H&S policy, not just ensuring that people are wearing a uniform of hat, jacket, gloves and glasses whilst ignoring the REAL risks.

If there is nobody working above you, why do you need a hard hat? Is a big bird going to fly into you

 

[VoltzElectrical]

If i was to report a fellow worker i would earn a reptutation as a tout, which is a great disgrace to have hanging over you

I put it to you, bloke, if you had been beasted for month after month over BS double standards about glasses and podiums, then nearly been beheaded over substandard scaffolding practices and organisational oversights by main contractors, then keeping people who you've had never seen or spoken to, and who had already had one major incident on the same project, on 'your' side, slips quite quickly down the list of priorities.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

 

[D00DY_T00DY]

what frequency's this planet rock? can't get real XS except in the van within 30 miles of manc. worst station imaginable is radio 1.

*Is currently listening to BBCR1xtra...*

 

[VoltzElectrical]

If there is nobody working above you, why do you need a hard hat? Is a big bird going to fly into you

You need bigger glasses numptee. That's what I just said isn't it? Not wearing a hard hat = not important. Not wearing harness = important, but which do you think gets picked up on where I work?

Read, then jog, on.

 

[rapparee]

I put it to you, bloke, if you had been beasted for month after month over BS double standards about glasses and podiums, then nearly been beheaded over substandard scaffolding practices and organisational oversights by main contractors, then keeping people who you've had never seen or spoken to, and who had already had one major incident on the same project, on 'your' side, slips quite quickly down the list of priorities.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Id see my shop steward. Who'd have a word in the decorators ear, no point escalating a situation pointing fingers in a managers office

 

[trev]

You need bigger glasses numptee. That's what I just said isn't it? Not wearing a hard hat = not important. Not wearing harness = important, but which do you think gets picked up on where I work?

Read, then jog, on.

I think it was what is known as a rhetorical question mate. I doubt he was having a go at you.

 

[rapparee]

You need bigger glasses numptee. That's what I just said isn't it? Not wearing a hard hat = not important. Not wearing harness = important, but which do you think gets picked up on where I work?

Read, then jog, on.

I dont wear glasses the pic in avatar isn't me. You are in some twist this evening is everything alright with you.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I think it was what is known as a rhetorical question mate. I doubt he was having a go at you.

Sorry Trev, but YES HE WAS, without reading the post properly because he has his 'left-wing, shop-steward, lefty, numpty glasses' on.

I'm not a Union member as I work for a living.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

BTW all the 'Union' members where I work are taking the pi$$ on the sick for 6 months because their feelings are hurt at tax-payer's expense may I add.

 

[rapparee]

BTW all the 'Union' members where I work are taking the pi$$ on the sick for 6 months because their feelings are hurt at tax-payer's expense may I add.

Well i have 2 incidences of absence since ive started my union job seven years ago, one was a funeral (2 days)the other was when i was in hosptal (week). So whats your point

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Well i have 2 incidences of absence since ive started my union job seven years ago, one was a funeral (2 days)the other was when i was in hosptal (week). So whats your point

Employee No.1 - into No.8 week of absence, stated reason = bad knees, real reason = fed up because requested holiday from next year's allowance due to bereavement denied.

Employee No.2 - into No.10 week of absence, stated reason = bad back, real reason = fed up because put on slightly lower rate of pay when Single Status pay enforced rather than the bonus, or priced based system that used to prevail.

Employee No.3 - into 8th month of absence, stated reason = stress related skin condition, real reason = can't get on with colleagues and earns better money driving lorries.

Employee No.4 - into 6 month of absence, stated reason = funny turns, real reason = won't let him retire or go on light tasks when others have.

Employee No.5 - back now after 2 months off with 'ganglions' now sits in van being driven around by an electrician and watching...

The waste goes on, and we're effing paying for it.

So what do you have to say to that Mr letfy goggle eyes? Or should I sponsor them through Oxfam, via a Union?

 

[Guest55]

I guess you work for a local authority then voltz ?

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I guess you work for a local authority then voltz ?

Oh well done, you get the early prize.

Did you read any of my previous posts?

Yes, in a word, much to my disgust, Never did I 'work' for such a bunch of slack jawed faggots in all my life. God help.

 

[trev]

This wasn't a bad thread until idiotic insults started to be thrown for no reason.

 

[matthunt]

Had a bad day at the office Voltz?

 

[rapparee]

Employee No.1 - into No.8 week of absence, stated reason = bad knees, real reason = fed up because requested holiday from next year's allowance due to bereavement denied.

Employee No.2 - into No.10 week of absence, stated reason = bad back, real reason = fed up because put on slightly lower rate of pay when Single Status pay enforced rather than the bonus, or priced based system that used to prevail.

Employee No.3 - into 8th month of absence, stated reason = stress related skin condition, real reason = can't get on with colleagues and earns better money driving lorries.

Employee No.4 - into 6 month of absence, stated reason = funny turns, real reason = won't let him retire or go on light tasks when others have.

Employee No.5 - back now after 2 months off with 'ganglions' now sits in van being driven around by an electrician and watching...

The waste goes on, and we're effing paying for it.

So what do you have to say to that Mr letfy goggle eyes? Or should I sponsor them through Oxfam, via a Union?

I think you should worry about yourself, relax, if you get any more excited you'll be the sixth man out on the sick.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

woah calm down , i was just asking politely.
and no i didnt bother trawling through several pages of waffle while your spitting your dummy out.
dick.

My beef is with the system I work within, not you dude.

 

[matthunt]

ok, moving on, what do you all think of voltage optimisers

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I think you should worry about yourself, relax, if you get any more excited you'll be the sixth man out on the sick.

Ha! I nearly bleeding' was last week, however, I walked off site and went on strike until the screaming skull that was obstructing me wound his neck in and stopped screaming abuse. For goodness sakes, all we have to do is put lights on sticks in the ground for a wage, but some of the dinosaurs that are 'supposed to be helping' me or at least form part of the 'team' that we make up seem to want to make the easiest job in the world, the hardest!

Apologies if any of you are feeling my work based frustrations!

 

[rapparee]

ok, moving on, what do you all think of voltage optimisers

Are they union or non union voltage optimisers??

 

[VoltzElectrical]

ok, moving on, what do you all think of voltage optimisers

I install 500 a week and think they are fantastic. They save the consumer a fortune and made me a millionaire.

 

[tazz]

Suggest the personal insults stop now, or offending members will gain infractions