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Hi Chaps as promised I said I would give you some feed back from my REAL audit.

The day went really well and to be honest found it very constructive. Its not a pass or fail, as you go through your processes he/she might highlight areas that need some work (which you probably know). Its not interrogation, its ensuring you are trading within the code and being proactive in your approach.

Firstly download the audit compliance check (Guidance - Members - REAL Assurance Scheme ). Complete the background questions then and go through the Audit Questions print off and write your comments and refresh yourself where the information is. Its to be organised which helps with the process, if you havent anything to hide its best to co-operate (if you have then go look for another job!).

QMS- just ensure its in order and your customer database is up to date. I did'nt have a process for recording cancellations (eg within the cooling off) however thats because I've never had any but I will add this to my customer database you need to record the reason and be able to analyse (this is for spotting corroelation with pressure selling).

Ensure your REAL cert, insurance info is displayed in the office - we have just build a new office so haven't got around to getting frames etc. You could think its ---- but its what the code asks.

Client account - Ensure your client account is a proper client account, this is a weird one as our client account is called a client account but has a account type "business account". I need to clarify this with hsbc to ensure this is the case.

Contract - We have developed our own contract taking parts of the REAL, however I get the opionion they want to use their contract with adaptions to your specific company. I wanted ours to fit 2 pages but REAL want it being clear so 14 pages it is !! So I'm going to use their one in entirety.

Training - have a procedure for training an reviewing updates to the code, you can link this into your monthly review meeting as part of the mcs qms process. But this does depend on the size our your organisation, if your have several people selling then you need a comprehensive policy to ensure compliance to training (A record must be kept!).

These are just a few pointers, but if you read the Audit Questions you will get a clearer picture on what they expect. I have a few things to do but nothing major just housekeeping and I'm pleased I had a visit as it gives me confidence in what/how we are conducting ourselves is up to standard. Without blowing my trumpet he was very impressed with the processes and how we conduct selling, which we need to focus on as our unique selling point.

We did also discuss rogue traders and how this may bring the REAL organisation into distrepute however they are working to clamp down on offending businessess. They have something like 5000 members, and I guess they are dealing with the explosion of new members. They do need us to report instances of firms blatently abusing the code, it is very hard for them to catch firms however we probably have the evidence from customers who have experienced pressure selling. So he said to report them to REAL with the evidence.
 
Contract - We have developed our own contract taking parts of the REAL, however I get the opionion they want to use their contract with adaptions to your specific company. I wanted ours to fit 2 pages but REAL want it being clear so 14 pages it is !! So I'm going to use their one in entirety.

Training - have a procedure for training an reviewing updates to the code, you can link this into your monthly review meeting as part of the mcs qms process. But this does depend on the size our your organisation, if your have several people selling then you need a comprehensive policy to ensure compliance to training (A record must be kept!).

These are just a few pointers, but if you read the Audit Questions you will get a clearer picture on what they expect. I have a few things to do but nothing major just housekeeping and I'm pleased I had a visit as it gives me confidence in what/how we are conducting ourselves is up to standard. Without blowing my trumpet he was very impressed with the processes and how we conduct selling, which we need to focus on as our unique selling point.

We have a 1 pager, taken from their own code - who will really read 14 pages? Maybe it was just the opinion of your assessor - I had the same with MCS in that they had an opinion on a part of the installation which isn't actually in their code!
 
Hope i dont get one, Have done three installs, cant open up a Client account as HSBC say i cant have one its not what they are for (my type of business that is), she said a memo went out in November last year to stop them.

Ive just taken money as it was the 13th Dec deadline and my MCS was 25 Nov.

Also struggling with the business, the one customer paid for the materials direct from the supplier.

You think i should ring them and explain? or try and find a client account now and hope and prey. i was so disheatened with it all last year i didnt really give a monkey's still dont know if its going to work now.
 
I would insist that HSBC set one up your a business and that's what you need. I hate banks telling us what they think we need, useless idiots ! Got me started now........
 
I just have a seperate account with the bank. I don't see why I should pay them extra just cos it's got client in front it!
 
It's got a seperate ring fence as if we as owners use it- eg take deposits and run or go into liqudation the clients are protected seperate to the other creditors and business dealings.
 
Lol agree ! But they want to start auditing 1in 5 firms. I think they will evolve into the niceic model and have an annual visit were we pay for it ! Ive got the same with CHAS they want annual inspections I'm going to give them a boot !
 
Thanks for the info Finchy; doesn't sound too bad.

Wouldn't surprise me if they did start charging for visits; need to make up the money they'll lose in membership reductions.
 
Just be careful on bending over backwards to meet their expectations, the audit states "certificate readily available, preferably on display", tell them where to stick the frame politely. I keep mine in a folder that stays in my van, therefore always available, its the same as being bullied into a quarantine area, there is no need as long as you have a process for segregating and identifying duff kit. The audit is seeing how you comply with a set of criteria, not how you match how they think it should be done. I look forward to my audit......how do I tell them I had money sent by clients before contracts were signed (even looked at)...... :-)
 
My quarantine area is currently full of household T+E scrap...... Well its no good for installs?
 

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