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Hawkmoon
You need to be careful there or that 6A breaker you put in might keep tripping every time they put the shower on .......
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You need to be careful there or that 6A breaker you put in might keep tripping every time they put the shower on .......
IF overload and thermal constraint limitations are met, it complies with BS7671 so no code, no comment
Dave, you cannot load the CIRCUIT any higher than 13A, unless you are abusing the plug and socket system
I do but I like some banter and fun between all the technical crap!You know what i was getting at badged
You have to mate.... to many regs book eaters !!I do but I like some banter and fun between all the technical crap!
I think there's a danger of confusing "Is this an absolute top-notch covered-all-the-bases, cable-cannot-be-rogered-by-incompetent-additions-or-rogue-equipment design?" with "Does it actually require improvement and if so on what grounds, preferably supported by the regs?"
Or 433.3.1 for why you might not even need one .....In regards to the OP, had anyone apart from HHD read reg 434.2.1? If no do so that will tell you where you may place a OCPD?.
In regards to the OP, had anyone apart from HHD read reg 434.2.1? If no do so that will tell you where you may place a OCPD?.
Exactly, so therefor you have to create a circuit to prevent this, IMO it's down to good workmanship and pride in your work.!!
The cable would be protected against overload - IF
It only served one piece of equipment at the end of it's run and nothing on the way, so you can't have a radial with 3 double sockets on it obviously.
Obviously you can't have a 16A socket at the end because these have no fuse system, but you could have one 13A socket or one switch fuse (fused appropriately for the cable)
I am not saying I go out of my way to install like this, I use an appropriate sized MCB at the origin like anyone else, but technically you don't have to.
does it now...Having reminded myself that a C3 means improvement required, I now agree, no code is appropriate. I would say maybe a comment but I don't think the EICR form lends itself well to comments that aren't tied to codes (observations section requires a code for any observation made). Amazing what you can learn from civilised discussion. Cheers.
does it now...
I certainly wouldn't advocate the scenario, and have always worked on the basis of MCB egual or less than CCC of cable. I have always replaced 'offending' MCB's in the past with something more 'suitable' but maybe I've been over cautious? I don't get involved with EICR's so don't have the dilemma of which code is 'appropriate'
The original OP was about an EICR code for a twins socket installed with 2.4mm backed up by a 32a cb, correct? Appendix 15 page 425 Figures 15A and 15B lays out the parameters to abide by when installing BS 1363 switched socket outlets, in 3 differing scenarios.
1/ Ring Final Circuit wired in 2.5mm
2/ 20amp radial wired in 2.5mm
3/ 32amp radial wired in 4.0mm
Someone mentioned, I can't remember who it was that if we read the Regs then there are different ways of installing these circuits, I'm not saying that there isn't but if whoever said this can point me in the right direction (within the Regs) then I may change my mind, but until that happens, Appendix 15 is my guide.
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