ATL/Trade qualified

[Steve Bucksey]

Hi all. Has anyone here attended any courses run by ATL/Trade qualified recently?
Thanks in advance, Steve

 

[wini1979]

Amen to that...these weasels need flattening.....money back or payback...what ever...either of them will happen

 

[TQisaripoff]

Moospark, you seem very sure of that. Perhaps you work for TQL!

 

[wini1979]

Facebook page done! look for Bringtradequalified2justice and please post / like and it will be top of searches on google, lets get the ball rolling

 

[wini1979]

@TQisaripoff Cheers mate this has all stemmed from your post...will like it...I'm a Facebook clutz but my missus runs a business on there so will get it networked...

 

[Johnuk]

shame this has happin but thats what u get when you do a Electrical Trainee courses, these courses are very miss leading and some of you guys will hit a brick wall

 

[moospark]

While you 'may' be right, I'm not going to just give up like that, not without a fight! ...no way in hell am I letting them just walk off with thousands of pounds of my money like that, not a chance. If we all just gave up and rolled over like that I dread to think what the world would be like.

Don't get me wrong, not for a moment do I suggest you roll over, but you are dealing with weasels.

 

[wini1979]

Please anyone seen off by these guys, like the facebook page & comment Bringtradequalified2justice,once I ave enough likes google search takes people there, means we can see the full extent of this company's mess

 

[moospark]

Moospark, you seem very sure of that. Perhaps you work for TQL!

No mate, just old. While I could not not advise direct action, I would truly be spitting feathers if I were you.

 

[Rockingit]

If any of you paid for course fees via plastic then you'll (probably) be covered under your credit card, depends on the exact circumstances and time frame.

I used to know a couple of guys who taught for ATL, I'll do some asking around.

 

[Arclightning]

That's a good point Rockingit, however in my case it was over a year ago they took the money so I doubt that will help me much.

shame this has happin but thats what u get when you do a Electrical Trainee courses, these courses are very miss leading and some of you guys will hit a brick wall

So I have since come to realise, however, there isn't a lot of choice if you want to be an electrician and you are over 25, an apprenticeship isn't really open to you so far as I could tell when I first looked into this at the end of 2011, that and I want to do it quicker than 4 years, it really doesn't take 4 years to learn this stuff, it does however take much more than 4 weeks of course.

Also when I first got into all this I didn't know about these forums or really how to go about becoming an electrician, I suppose in hindsight using the money for something like a C&G 2330 (at the time) or 2357 from a college now would be better, following that up with 17th Edition etc. Perhaps a discussion for another time and place really, since thread isn't really about the pros and cons of short courses like this. TQL had been trading 'legitimately' since 2006 and when I signed up with them I did do some research and didn't find anything bad or untoward, they seemed quite legitimate to me.

 

[bigbaddave]

Did anyone pay for the course on a credit card ?

 

[Arclightning]

Yes, I believe it was January 2012. Although it didn't come off my card it was my fathers so he will have the exact record. I need to talk to him about what seems to be going on here. I should be able to get hold of him Monday.

 

[bigbaddave]

Speak to your credit card company then as goods not received, They have a process for dealing with stuff like this. However if you have received part of the goods (Courses) I dont know where you stand but speak to them mate..

 

[Arclightning]

Yea, I have received part of the goods.

I've come out so far with my C&G 2382 17th Edition and C&G 2377 PAT testing. They still owe me various training towards C&G 2392 and then eventually a day of extra training and the opportunity to take that and get my 2392 certificate, they also owe me a CSCS card (although I already have the basic one anyway) a 1 day course and certificate in basic first aid, 200 pounds worth of tools in a starter tool kit and Full Scope Part P qualification. In addition to this for paying up front I was promised the BPEC Solar Photo-voltaic course, which iirc was 4 days.

 

[Engineer54]

I want to do it quicker than 4 years, it really doesn't take 4 years to learn this stuff,

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Yes it DOES!! What you have in the way of qualifications and experience does not equal Electrician, it doesn't even equal a Mate!!

As stated many times here in the past, if you can't do the time, and don't want to put the required effort in, then choose another trade to get into. Preferably one where you can't potentially harm anyone or burn the place down. If your stupid enough to think you can become an electrician in a matter of day's or a few weeks, you are only fooling yourself big time!!

No matter what you think or what you have been told, it DOES take years to become a proficient electrician and definitely proficient enough to go into peoples homes to undertake electrical work. How does the saying go, ...Fools Rush in Where Angels Fear to Tread!!

 

[Rampantchilli]

I want to do it quicker than 4 years, it really doesn't take 4 years to learn this stuff,

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Yes it DOES!! What you have in the way of qualifications and experience does not equal Electrician, it doesn't even equal a Mate!!

As stated many times here in the past, if you can't do the time, and don't want to put the required effort in, then choose another trade to get into. Preferably one where you can't potentially harm anyone or burn the place down. If your stupid enough to think you can become an electrician in a matter of day's or a few weeks, you are only fooling yourself big time!!

No matter what you think or what you have been told, it DOES take years to become a proficient electrician and definitely proficient enough to go into peoples homes to undertake electrical work. How does the saying go, ...Fools Rush in Where Angels Fear to Tread!!

Eh men to that, 5year apprenticeship plus another 20 years on job, and I'm still learning.

 

[Engineer54]

Eh men to that, 5year apprenticeship plus another 20 years on job, and I'm still learning.

It's crazy isn't it!! lol!!

He should look at what he's saying in that last post, ...They owe me a 1 Day course for this, another day's course for that, a 4 day course for something else!! What does he and others think they are going to learn on these short courses?? Not a mention anywhere of a Core qualification to any of these fast track courses, just mainly useless/meaningless add-on type courses.....

 

[wini1979]

Guys, although what you are saying may / is correct by the training community ethos of "Back in my day, when a course was a course" bottom line is he has been robbed, as I, from a company that we used to try and get into the trade stream (and in my case its not a matter of not bothering to put in the effort @Engineer54, Im in the military...have been for some 16 years and doing a job that most people couldnt handle in itself,let alone train with a distance learn company as its our only and get ready for Civilian life).

So do me and others a favour please visit Bringtradequalified2justice on facebook and like so others are not ripped off

 

[Rockingit]

wini1979 - clear some space in your PM's!!!

 

[Rockingit]

It's crazy isn't it!! lol!!

He should look at what he's saying in that last post, ...They owe me a 1 Day course for this, another day's course for that, a 4 day course for something else!! What does he and others think they are going to learn on these short courses?? Not a mention anywhere of a Core qualification to any of these fast track courses, just mainly useless/meaningless add-on type courses.....

Yes, I know it's a quandery, but in fairness to this thread these guys aren't discussing the 'quality' of training or which route into the industry is best - let's face it we all know what that is - but it sounds like they are getting the tough end of being ripped off, and that's a different matter. They've bought into a dream that doesn't exist at a heavy price.